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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miracle carburators from 1976 are an urban legend and are technically ludecrous! Lets face facts, even electronic carbs aren&#039;t capible of compensating for changes in the weather and run differently from one day to the next. Vaporization schemes are rediculous, we may as well put sails on our cars.

Scavenging heat energy wasted by internal combustion engines is obvioysly the first easy thing we should do. Scavenging lost heat is something so obvious that even the most dim witted individual would know that it should have been standard equipment on cars since the 40&#039;s. Even though energy was cheap then it shouldn&#039;t have been throwh away like so much excess trash. Even something so idiotically simple as creating on demand steam from heat in the nearly red hot exhaust manifold to generate electrical power would be a vast improvement. I&#039;m also convinced that the government, oil companies and detroit do not want vechicles to get the best fuel milage possible. Fuel economy must be metered to us slowly to get the last drops from old delapidated  refineries and to maximize their  profits. They make record profits, but are afraid to invest in new facilities in a changing environment. You&#039;d think they knew the end of the world was near and the one with the most money wins.

Concerning blame for the high price of fuels. Is it the fault of the oil companies? Yes! Is it the fault of the politicians? Yes! Is it the fault of the consumers? Yes! The oil companies are cold heartless machines that thrive on profits. The politicians accept huge contrabutions from energy concerns (such as Enron et &#039;al in the case of G W Bush). They aren&#039;t likely to bite the hand that put them in office, so they are soft on these companies at our expense. Also many neo-cons are oil men. But we &quot;The People&quot; are ultimately to blame for putting up with their continuing schanagans. And don&#039;t even get me started on heating fuel oil. It cost me $600.00 for 200 gallons.

Now for the coup d&#039;gras and the reason that Iran and Iraq seem to dislike us! Back in 1969, Kissinger went to the middle east to sign an agreement with all the Arabic and Persian oil producing countries. We were supposed to buy a certain amount of oil from them and they would in turn buy some questionable US investments, like floundering securities (which strangely is happening right freakin&#039; now) and over priced gold. Iran and Iraq refused to sign on to the agreement and instead wanted to underbid their neighbors in a free market economy (&quot;The American Way&quot;). This now also been similarly applied to Venezuela, which we have been meddling with for a while now and will almost certainly have a military conflict with in the near future.

Don&#039;t give up your right to vote. Vote for Ron Paul (he&#039;s the least rotten fruit in the basket), he&#039;s a real wacko, he believs in the Constitution and isn&#039;t conning us by waiving crosses, Bibles or The Book of Mormon at us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miracle carburators from 1976 are an urban legend and are technically ludecrous! Lets face facts, even electronic carbs aren&#8217;t capible of compensating for changes in the weather and run differently from one day to the next. Vaporization schemes are rediculous, we may as well put sails on our cars.</p>
<p>Scavenging heat energy wasted by internal combustion engines is obvioysly the first easy thing we should do. Scavenging lost heat is something so obvious that even the most dim witted individual would know that it should have been standard equipment on cars since the 40&#8217;s. Even though energy was cheap then it shouldn&#8217;t have been throwh away like so much excess trash. Even something so idiotically simple as creating on demand steam from heat in the nearly red hot exhaust manifold to generate electrical power would be a vast improvement. I&#8217;m also convinced that the government, oil companies and detroit do not want vechicles to get the best fuel milage possible. Fuel economy must be metered to us slowly to get the last drops from old delapidated  refineries and to maximize their  profits. They make record profits, but are afraid to invest in new facilities in a changing environment. You&#8217;d think they knew the end of the world was near and the one with the most money wins.</p>
<p>Concerning blame for the high price of fuels. Is it the fault of the oil companies? Yes! Is it the fault of the politicians? Yes! Is it the fault of the consumers? Yes! The oil companies are cold heartless machines that thrive on profits. The politicians accept huge contrabutions from energy concerns (such as Enron et &#8216;al in the case of G W Bush). They aren&#8217;t likely to bite the hand that put them in office, so they are soft on these companies at our expense. Also many neo-cons are oil men. But we &#8220;The People&#8221; are ultimately to blame for putting up with their continuing schanagans. And don&#8217;t even get me started on heating fuel oil. It cost me $600.00 for 200 gallons.</p>
<p>Now for the coup d&#8217;gras and the reason that Iran and Iraq seem to dislike us! Back in 1969, Kissinger went to the middle east to sign an agreement with all the Arabic and Persian oil producing countries. We were supposed to buy a certain amount of oil from them and they would in turn buy some questionable US investments, like floundering securities (which strangely is happening right freakin&#8217; now) and over priced gold. Iran and Iraq refused to sign on to the agreement and instead wanted to underbid their neighbors in a free market economy (&#8221;The American Way&#8221;). This now also been similarly applied to Venezuela, which we have been meddling with for a while now and will almost certainly have a military conflict with in the near future.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give up your right to vote. Vote for Ron Paul (he&#8217;s the least rotten fruit in the basket), he&#8217;s a real wacko, he believs in the Constitution and isn&#8217;t conning us by waiving crosses, Bibles or The Book of Mormon at us.</p>
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		<title>By: deachgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>deachgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$25/barrel when Bush started his presidency.
Near $100/barrel when he ends his presidency.
Not too shabby of a return for his personal(family and his buddies)inc. Cheney&#039;s investments for 8 yrs.  400% return at our troops expense. Every other politician gets indicted for trying to increase his net wealth while he is in office.  The more kaos in the Middle East the more Bush&#039;s net worth rises.
Bush is one smart president!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$25/barrel when Bush started his presidency.<br />
Near $100/barrel when he ends his presidency.<br />
Not too shabby of a return for his personal(family and his buddies)inc. Cheney&#8217;s investments for 8 yrs.  400% return at our troops expense. Every other politician gets indicted for trying to increase his net wealth while he is in office.  The more kaos in the Middle East the more Bush&#8217;s net worth rises.<br />
Bush is one smart president!</p>
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		<title>By: B-Man</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/where-does-your-three-dollars-per-gallon-really-go/comment-page-1/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>B-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world is running out of oil. Prices will go up indefinately. A major shock is coming to this world, and a major readjustment will be necessary for our civilization. Someday, firing up a half ton of steel to go down the block to get milk will seem ridiculous. Read The Long Emergency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world is running out of oil. Prices will go up indefinately. A major shock is coming to this world, and a major readjustment will be necessary for our civilization. Someday, firing up a half ton of steel to go down the block to get milk will seem ridiculous. Read The Long Emergency.</p>
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		<title>By: DAN THE GAS MAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAN THE GAS MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>txblbnt..hey if you think retailers dbl their markup you are truly confused. The  avg. gas station makes 6- 10cents a gallon unless thier gauging. Also they are basically told how to price thier gas by a broker not by thier wife</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>txblbnt..hey if you think retailers dbl their markup you are truly confused. The  avg. gas station makes 6- 10cents a gallon unless thier gauging. Also they are basically told how to price thier gas by a broker not by thier wife</p>
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		<title>By: PETER</title>
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		<dc:creator>PETER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE COST OF THE CRUDE OIL ALONE IN A GALLON OF GASOLINE IS ABOUT $2.20. MOST OF THE MONEY GOES TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.
THE COMPLETE BREAKDOWN CAN BE FOUND AT:http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE COST OF THE CRUDE OIL ALONE IN A GALLON OF GASOLINE IS ABOUT $2.20. MOST OF THE MONEY GOES TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.<br />
THE COMPLETE BREAKDOWN CAN BE FOUND AT:http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said hubcap I was using your tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said hubcap I was using your tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: hubcap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubcap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
Wildly embellish what I wrote almost to the point of fabrication, and then refute it with obvious details. You build a helluva straw man; nicely done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Wildly embellish what I wrote almost to the point of fabrication, and then refute it with obvious details. You build a helluva straw man; nicely done!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubcap, whats really amusing is your comments. Indeed there is a finite amount of energy in a gallon of gas(or any other fuel). In the process of moving y weight at z speed as you put it a typical gasoline powered vehicle today squanders about 4 units of energy to heat and friction loss for every unit it actually uses. Your belief that there is no room for improvement(I&#039;m using your tactics now) is assenine.
   If you must insist on categorizing everyone else as a flag waving war monger eager to send more money to Washington to kill peaceful Muslims while &quot;whining&quot; about paying to have roads fixed(I&#039;m using your tactics again)mabye your views are to weak to stand on their own.
    I have worked for government and if I had a nickel for every dollar they waste I could buy that Carribean island you retire on and raise your taxes till your ecstatic. If people like you who falsly believe that gasoline taxes are user taxes(I know you didn&#039;t say that but since you can put words in everyones mouth what the heck) understood that billions of dollars from gas taxes are funneled directly into the general budget you might realize that money for infrastructure is already there. Like social security it&#039;s being used for all sorts of things it was never intended for. The last increase in the federal gasoline tax of 4 cents a gallon by president Clinton went entirely into the general budget and is now helping to fund the war and you want to blame republicans(yeah I know you didn&#039;t exactly say that but then again I never said democrats were responsible for the current price of gasoline as you claimed). 
   As for your accusation that I &quot;want to blame the party that wasn&#039;t in power&quot; for some future tax increases I stand guily  as charged. It&#039;s time someone pointed out to you that George Bush is a lame duck president who isn&#039;t running again. Democrats have controlled congress now for 11 months and not only have they not ended the war enough of them supported him to allow the number of troops to be increased. When we vote unlike you most of us are considering the future. If I take into consideration promises for massive increases in the federal gasoline tax then so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubcap, whats really amusing is your comments. Indeed there is a finite amount of energy in a gallon of gas(or any other fuel). In the process of moving y weight at z speed as you put it a typical gasoline powered vehicle today squanders about 4 units of energy to heat and friction loss for every unit it actually uses. Your belief that there is no room for improvement(I&#8217;m using your tactics now) is assenine.<br />
   If you must insist on categorizing everyone else as a flag waving war monger eager to send more money to Washington to kill peaceful Muslims while &#8220;whining&#8221; about paying to have roads fixed(I&#8217;m using your tactics again)mabye your views are to weak to stand on their own.<br />
    I have worked for government and if I had a nickel for every dollar they waste I could buy that Carribean island you retire on and raise your taxes till your ecstatic. If people like you who falsly believe that gasoline taxes are user taxes(I know you didn&#8217;t say that but since you can put words in everyones mouth what the heck) understood that billions of dollars from gas taxes are funneled directly into the general budget you might realize that money for infrastructure is already there. Like social security it&#8217;s being used for all sorts of things it was never intended for. The last increase in the federal gasoline tax of 4 cents a gallon by president Clinton went entirely into the general budget and is now helping to fund the war and you want to blame republicans(yeah I know you didn&#8217;t exactly say that but then again I never said democrats were responsible for the current price of gasoline as you claimed).<br />
   As for your accusation that I &#8220;want to blame the party that wasn&#8217;t in power&#8221; for some future tax increases I stand guily  as charged. It&#8217;s time someone pointed out to you that George Bush is a lame duck president who isn&#8217;t running again. Democrats have controlled congress now for 11 months and not only have they not ended the war enough of them supported him to allow the number of troops to be increased. When we vote unlike you most of us are considering the future. If I take into consideration promises for massive increases in the federal gasoline tax then so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: hubcap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubcap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite amusing to watch people whining about paying taxes. You must think the infrastructure that supports your lifestyle was miraculously put here by god or something.

Newsflash, it has to be paid for and it ain&#039;t cheap. But it&#039;s funny; no one seems to mind giving up half their paycheck to finance the botched invasion of a country which was no threat, but when you&#039;re asked to kick down for some road maintenance and public transit, you shriek like a spoiled child.

Frankly I don&#039;t think any politicians--Democratic or Republican--have the balls to increase taxes to the levels that will be necessary to address this country&#039;s social, energy, infrastructure and environmental problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite amusing to watch people whining about paying taxes. You must think the infrastructure that supports your lifestyle was miraculously put here by god or something.</p>
<p>Newsflash, it has to be paid for and it ain&#8217;t cheap. But it&#8217;s funny; no one seems to mind giving up half their paycheck to finance the botched invasion of a country which was no threat, but when you&#8217;re asked to kick down for some road maintenance and public transit, you shriek like a spoiled child.</p>
<p>Frankly I don&#8217;t think any politicians&#8211;Democratic or Republican&#8211;have the balls to increase taxes to the levels that will be necessary to address this country&#8217;s social, energy, infrastructure and environmental problems.</p>
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		<title>By: hubcap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubcap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence, 
Puh-leeze! I spent twenty years fixing cars in dealerships of the big three, but mostly for Ford.

If I had a nickel for every time I&#039;ve heard that or some similar wild-assed tale, I would have retired to the Caribbean a long time ago.

There is a finite amount of energy in a given amount of gasoline. It takes X energy to move Y weight at Z speed. Period. No fuel metering technology is going to alter that basic fact - especially not a carburetor and especially not a carburetor in 1976.

For anyone who actually believes that story, I know a Nigerian who needs help transferring funds to an American bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence,<br />
Puh-leeze! I spent twenty years fixing cars in dealerships of the big three, but mostly for Ford.</p>
<p>If I had a nickel for every time I&#8217;ve heard that or some similar wild-assed tale, I would have retired to the Caribbean a long time ago.</p>
<p>There is a finite amount of energy in a given amount of gasoline. It takes X energy to move Y weight at Z speed. Period. No fuel metering technology is going to alter that basic fact &#8211; especially not a carburetor and especially not a carburetor in 1976.</p>
<p>For anyone who actually believes that story, I know a Nigerian who needs help transferring funds to an American bank.</p>
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