Comments on: “Stop Red Light Running” Exposed As Corporate Lobbying Group http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/ News For Drivers Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:32:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: anonymous http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14022 anonymous Tue, 26 May 2009 03:38:54 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-14022 took a right turn on red. Got a ticket. Said i went through a red light at 10 miles an hour. This system is not only innacurate its a hastle to everyone. Hire more traffic cops that can also protect us. took a right turn on red. Got a ticket. Said i went through a red light at 10 miles an hour. This system is not only innacurate its a hastle to everyone. Hire more traffic cops that can also protect us.

]]> By: keyword tool http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13892 keyword tool Thu, 14 May 2009 19:09:34 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-13892 Do they ticket commercial vehicles for actually physically not being able to stop? Do they ticket commercial vehicles for actually physically not being able to stop?

]]> By: megafoo directory http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13856 megafoo directory Wed, 13 May 2009 05:18:29 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-13856 Vaseline on the camera would be better than on your plate. Vaseline on the camera would be better than on your plate.

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]]> By: Ron Fleming http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13829 Ron Fleming Mon, 11 May 2009 16:03:34 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-13829 Even though I no longer drive in places where these camera's are located, they still are and have always been good for one thing and that is increased revenue. Same as photo radar, another cash cow. When you see new laws and regulations coming out in drones, you know it spells only one word, regardless what safety feature its supposed to initiate..."REVENUE ONLY!" If the municpalities are so desperate for scrounging money, why don't they just fine everyone living in the area $500.00 a year just for living there, no reason, no rhyme. It would make more practical sense rather than lying to the citizens straight faced as everyone knows authorities are all crooks. Even though I no longer drive in places where these camera’s are located, they still are and have always been good for one thing and that is increased revenue. Same as photo radar, another cash cow. When you see new laws and regulations coming out in drones, you know it spells only one word, regardless what safety feature its supposed to initiate…”REVENUE ONLY!”
If the municpalities are so desperate for scrounging money, why don’t they just fine everyone living in the area $500.00 a year just for living there, no reason, no rhyme. It would make more practical sense rather than lying to the citizens straight faced as everyone knows authorities are all crooks.

]]> By: Trevor http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13826 Trevor Mon, 11 May 2009 08:13:08 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-13826 Instead of red light traffic cams made to sucker everyone for what little slave money they earned at work, why not create an intelligent traffic system where it has motion sensors a few hydro poles from the light for input to change lights...??? Then tie them all in together so that it's always green light for the majority of people, it could even weigh 20 cars one way vs 80 cars the other... In major cities I can't believe the greed is so obvious as to not serve the public interest anymore. Voting counts and giving great ideas like motion sensor cams to auto green your light to your local city MP will be how it can also be fought. Lengthen the yellow lights too. An extra second is good to keep the intersections clear... I'd also be nice to have recommended speed signs to get to the light on the next green ahead. like if your 60km/hr and it says speed up to 80km/hr to make the light on a sign... ...or if you are 80 and it says drop to 50km/hr so that it goes red, turns green by the time you GET to the light... THESE are the upgrades I want in place of these scameras! The weight sensors are too late. I'm already stopped and wasted the brake/gas to make it know I need to cross the lights. Motion sensors could save me that hassle! (or hold a light green or yellow FOR me instead of the entrapment style that seems to be on this website being exposed to not serve society but rather the coffers of those who would make normal people look like they are street racers for trying to get to work and back each day... Instead of red light traffic cams made to sucker everyone for what little slave money they earned at work, why not create an intelligent traffic system where it has motion sensors a few hydro poles from the light for input to change lights…???

Then tie them all in together so that it’s always green light for the majority of people, it could even weigh 20 cars one way vs 80 cars the other… In major cities I can’t believe the greed is so obvious as to not serve the public interest anymore.

Voting counts and giving great ideas like motion sensor cams to auto green your light to your local city MP will be how it can also be fought. Lengthen the yellow lights too. An extra second is good to keep the intersections clear…

I’d also be nice to have recommended speed signs to get to the light on the next green ahead. like if your 60km/hr and it says speed up to 80km/hr to make the light on a sign…

…or if you are 80 and it says drop to 50km/hr so that it goes red, turns green by the time you GET to the light…

THESE are the upgrades I want in place of these scameras!

The weight sensors are too late. I’m already stopped and wasted the brake/gas to make it know I need to cross the lights. Motion sensors could save me that hassle! (or hold a light green or yellow FOR me instead of the entrapment style that seems to be on this website being exposed to not serve society but rather the coffers of those who would make normal people look like they are street racers for trying to get to work and back each day…

]]> By: Be Real http://blog.motorists.org/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13825 Be Real Mon, 11 May 2009 03:15:08 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/stop-red-light-running-exposed-as-corporate-lobbying-group-2/#comment-13825 When there is an unjust law somebody needs to complain. If they made it a law to go outside during daylight hours would you still Yell at people for going out side. Granted this is a extreme example, but it makes the point they can literally make a law about anything. it is up to the people to determine if it is just. Shortening the yellow light so they can make more money is not just. Even though it increases the number of accidents. Yes it is proven the number of accidents getting rear-ended increase with red light cameras. A study also should that adding a single second to the yellow light decreased dramatically. No results don't change after time, because people mainly run red lights because they don't think they can stop in time, not because they are trying to beat the light. Going back to the just part. If there is someone tailing you you feel that if you tried to stop you'll get hit. That person stopped you go through the light, you get a ticket because you avoided a accident. This is the scenario that people are complaining about. You assume the people complain because that are trying to beat lights a feel they should be able to YOU ARE WRONG! Many people say that until they are the ones that get the ticket. If you live in an are were you have a lot of Red light cameras you WILL get a ticket or rear-ended it is just a matter of time. My ticket I was .1 second late at the white line, the average human reflex time is .13 seconds. Had I not hit the breaks to see if could stop I would have made it through just fine. The camera had clock me doing 30mph. The road was a 35 zone. I want to catch the a-hole that goes flying through a light knowing it going to be red taking the chance that he going to beat the crossroad traffic just as much as anyone, but punishing safe drivers to do it, that is just wrong, and so is making money off it knowing it does not help. When there is an unjust law somebody needs to complain. If they made it a law to go outside during daylight hours would you still Yell at people for going out side. Granted this is a extreme example, but it makes the point they can literally make a law about anything. it is up to the people to determine if it is just. Shortening the yellow light so they can make more money is not just. Even though it increases the number of accidents. Yes it is proven the number of accidents getting rear-ended increase with red light cameras. A study also should that adding a single second to the yellow light decreased dramatically. No results don’t change after time, because people mainly run red lights because they don’t think they can stop in time, not because they are trying to beat the light.
Going back to the just part. If there is someone tailing you you feel that if you tried to stop you’ll get hit. That person stopped you go through the light, you get a ticket because you avoided a accident. This is the scenario that people are complaining about. You assume the people complain because that are trying to beat lights a feel they should be able to YOU ARE WRONG! Many people say that until they are the ones that get the ticket. If you live in an are were you have a lot of Red light cameras you WILL get a ticket or rear-ended it is just a matter of time.
My ticket I was .1 second late at the white line, the average human reflex time is .13 seconds. Had I not hit the breaks to see if could stop I would have made it through just fine. The camera had clock me doing 30mph. The road was a 35 zone.
I want to catch the a-hole that goes flying through a light knowing it going to be red taking the chance that he going to beat the crossroad traffic just as much as anyone, but punishing safe drivers to do it, that is just wrong, and so is making money off it knowing it does not help.

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