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	<title>Comments on: Red-Light Camera Mistakenly Tickets Soldier Serving In Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Jonno</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-9199</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its about time that we the motorists can claim damages from the Traffic authorities for bad tickets. That will make the authorities responsible, as it falls under the same situation of a business putting his thumb on the weighing scales in order to get an advantage. These government and private enterprise contracts have gone too far. Damn you cameras and governments and private enterprise and all you who prey on the common motorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its about time that we the motorists can claim damages from the Traffic authorities for bad tickets. That will make the authorities responsible, as it falls under the same situation of a business putting his thumb on the weighing scales in order to get an advantage. These government and private enterprise contracts have gone too far. Damn you cameras and governments and private enterprise and all you who prey on the common motorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4914</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very related story about my personal experience with being wrongfully ticketed by a camera. It is already on my blog here: http://www.farmdevil.net/?p=76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very related story about my personal experience with being wrongfully ticketed by a camera. It is already on my blog here: <a href="http://www.farmdevil.net/?p=76" rel="nofollow">http://www.farmdevil.net/?p=76</a></p>
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		<title>By: joe b.</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2896</link>
		<dc:creator>joe b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you to mr. young and the retired cop for confirming what I already highly suspected. there really is no hope. Give me liberty or death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you to mr. young and the retired cop for confirming what I already highly suspected. there really is no hope. Give me liberty or death.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Cop</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2789</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the bad typing.  Not a clerical position here.</description>
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		<title>By: Texas Cop</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2788</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Cop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to JohnB.  Keep in mind that our Constitution does not cover persons from outside the US, that are IN another country.  If they are monitoring outside communications coming in from other countries, unless you are a terrorist, I wouldnt&#039; mind if they monitored a message somone might get from countries such as Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Somalia or anywhere else where extremeist seem to want to congregate.  (Or maybe there are little black helicoptors flying overhead right now transmitting radio waves into your brain to see your thoughts.)  However, if I may be so bold to remind you that this was a forum about Red Light Cameras.  If there is such an outcry about it, do as was suggested earlier and go to your City government, demand hearings on the safety concerns that are brought up here.  Some are very valid, some are persoanl in nature.  I am very skeptical about them as well, but I am not a lunatic about it either.  Just make sure you have your facts straight or the City attorney&#039;s will eat you for lunch because that is their job.  I do not disagree that it is a revenue generating machine.  I&#039;ve seen it here and been caught myself and help generate that revenue (yes even cops get tickets).  There are a lot of freedoms being eroded away by governement and certain politicians, all in the name of making the streets safer, are making a lot of money from it.  Too many liberal judges making their own laws from the bench and too many politicians, conservative and liberal alike, with their hands in someone elses pants and not doing the will of the people.  But if you do want to make a difference there are a couple of ways to do it.  Vote your conscience and be involved in your community, not just sit back and take it.  

And like it or not, or &quot;buy in to the tripe&quot; that driving is a privilege.  Try getting a license by failing the test and then claim it&#039;s your constitutional right.  It&#039;s just the way it is, regardless of the most popular means of transportation or your own personal belief on the matter.

As far as other enforcement, most cops will enforce all of the ones mentioned, with the exception of the failing to pay close attention, or our acronym &quot;DWHUA&quot;.  We ahven&#039;t quite foudn a test for that yet.  We suually ahve to wait until someone get run over before we realize that was actually the issue.  If you or anyone here knows how to look at someone driving regularly that isn&#039;t paying attention (except for the obvious of reading a book, putting on makeup, texting, turning around facing the rear to get something) we would really appreciate it.  But if you really want to get a topic going, start a forum on talking on the cell phone and driving at the same time.  There&#039;s a free speech issue that should be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to JohnB.  Keep in mind that our Constitution does not cover persons from outside the US, that are IN another country.  If they are monitoring outside communications coming in from other countries, unless you are a terrorist, I wouldnt&#8217; mind if they monitored a message somone might get from countries such as Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Somalia or anywhere else where extremeist seem to want to congregate.  (Or maybe there are little black helicoptors flying overhead right now transmitting radio waves into your brain to see your thoughts.)  However, if I may be so bold to remind you that this was a forum about Red Light Cameras.  If there is such an outcry about it, do as was suggested earlier and go to your City government, demand hearings on the safety concerns that are brought up here.  Some are very valid, some are persoanl in nature.  I am very skeptical about them as well, but I am not a lunatic about it either.  Just make sure you have your facts straight or the City attorney&#8217;s will eat you for lunch because that is their job.  I do not disagree that it is a revenue generating machine.  I&#8217;ve seen it here and been caught myself and help generate that revenue (yes even cops get tickets).  There are a lot of freedoms being eroded away by governement and certain politicians, all in the name of making the streets safer, are making a lot of money from it.  Too many liberal judges making their own laws from the bench and too many politicians, conservative and liberal alike, with their hands in someone elses pants and not doing the will of the people.  But if you do want to make a difference there are a couple of ways to do it.  Vote your conscience and be involved in your community, not just sit back and take it.  </p>
<p>And like it or not, or &#8220;buy in to the tripe&#8221; that driving is a privilege.  Try getting a license by failing the test and then claim it&#8217;s your constitutional right.  It&#8217;s just the way it is, regardless of the most popular means of transportation or your own personal belief on the matter.</p>
<p>As far as other enforcement, most cops will enforce all of the ones mentioned, with the exception of the failing to pay close attention, or our acronym &#8220;DWHUA&#8221;.  We ahven&#8217;t quite foudn a test for that yet.  We suually ahve to wait until someone get run over before we realize that was actually the issue.  If you or anyone here knows how to look at someone driving regularly that isn&#8217;t paying attention (except for the obvious of reading a book, putting on makeup, texting, turning around facing the rear to get something) we would really appreciate it.  But if you really want to get a topic going, start a forum on talking on the cell phone and driving at the same time.  There&#8217;s a free speech issue that should be addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: flies dibber</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2637</link>
		<dc:creator>flies dibber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the purpose of redlight camera is to prevent accidents, why then, do they shorten the yellow light to change faster. How many more tickets do they generate for a 3 second yellow vs a 4 second yellow light. Maybe to generate more revenue.

Kirk, what planet did you come form??  Maybe you should go back, gather some data on &quot;shortening yellow lights&quot; and post that data on this site. 

The cameras don&#039;t ticket people who are in the intersection and still need make the turn when the light changes.  By the way, in the intersection is not a half block away accelerating as fast as the car will accelerate and then going through the red light as someone going through the intersection on green (legally) gets slammed.

If our politicians want to know exactly how the general public feels about; then they should put the issue on an election ballot ---- in a general election and see what people really want.  Anti-camera votes would probably garner upwards of 30-35% of the vote!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the purpose of redlight camera is to prevent accidents, why then, do they shorten the yellow light to change faster. How many more tickets do they generate for a 3 second yellow vs a 4 second yellow light. Maybe to generate more revenue.</p>
<p>Kirk, what planet did you come form??  Maybe you should go back, gather some data on &#8220;shortening yellow lights&#8221; and post that data on this site. </p>
<p>The cameras don&#8217;t ticket people who are in the intersection and still need make the turn when the light changes.  By the way, in the intersection is not a half block away accelerating as fast as the car will accelerate and then going through the red light as someone going through the intersection on green (legally) gets slammed.</p>
<p>If our politicians want to know exactly how the general public feels about; then they should put the issue on an election ballot &#8212;- in a general election and see what people really want.  Anti-camera votes would probably garner upwards of 30-35% of the vote!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Baja Joes</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>Baja Joes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a car with 2 cameras and a &quot;black box&quot;
One camera with a Forward view and another camera with a rear view. The &quot;black box&quot; will show my speed, seatbelt use, and any braking.  Then if I get a ticket I can review the issue and if I&#039;m guilty I&#039;ll pay but if any of the above clears me I&#039;ll fight till I&#039;m broke! I almost forgot a most important point. Ialso want AUDIO, VERY GOOD AUDIO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a car with 2 cameras and a &#8220;black box&#8221;<br />
One camera with a Forward view and another camera with a rear view. The &#8220;black box&#8221; will show my speed, seatbelt use, and any braking.  Then if I get a ticket I can review the issue and if I&#8217;m guilty I&#8217;ll pay but if any of the above clears me I&#8217;ll fight till I&#8217;m broke! I almost forgot a most important point. Ialso want AUDIO, VERY GOOD AUDIO!</p>
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		<title>By: Young driver</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2548</link>
		<dc:creator>Young driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t understand it anymore. What has happened to everyone?? I can remember just 10 years ago we didn&#039;t seem to have these kinds of problems. Now everyone has a problem with everyone else, suspects the worst and no one seems to want to take responsibility for their actions! It seems like we&#039;re all falling apart! If you do something wrong (speeding, running a red light) then you should be punished no matter how they went about getting you your ticket. If you didn&#039;t know the national speed limit or not to run a red light then you should not have gotten your license to begin with (we all have to pass that test). Stop complaining about how things have to be run. Times are changing and that is a result. Maybe it&#039;s not safe for the officiers to walk the street anymore, we have done that to ourselves. They are just protecting themselves like we would do for ourselves. Maybe they have to hide because they know if we saw them that we would slow down and then speed up when we were out of their sights. I&#039;ve seen it happen so many times. Haven&#039;t we said that mankind is always evolving? Maybe this is just part of it. I believe that. Sure, there may be some bugs in the beginning. With new things there usually is. But then we learn how to fix it; with the cameras maybe they are coming up with a way for a clearer image. Who knows? I just believe that people should start taking responsibility for their actions and maybe stuff like the red light cameras wouldn&#039;t be necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand it anymore. What has happened to everyone?? I can remember just 10 years ago we didn&#8217;t seem to have these kinds of problems. Now everyone has a problem with everyone else, suspects the worst and no one seems to want to take responsibility for their actions! It seems like we&#8217;re all falling apart! If you do something wrong (speeding, running a red light) then you should be punished no matter how they went about getting you your ticket. If you didn&#8217;t know the national speed limit or not to run a red light then you should not have gotten your license to begin with (we all have to pass that test). Stop complaining about how things have to be run. Times are changing and that is a result. Maybe it&#8217;s not safe for the officiers to walk the street anymore, we have done that to ourselves. They are just protecting themselves like we would do for ourselves. Maybe they have to hide because they know if we saw them that we would slow down and then speed up when we were out of their sights. I&#8217;ve seen it happen so many times. Haven&#8217;t we said that mankind is always evolving? Maybe this is just part of it. I believe that. Sure, there may be some bugs in the beginning. With new things there usually is. But then we learn how to fix it; with the cameras maybe they are coming up with a way for a clearer image. Who knows? I just believe that people should start taking responsibility for their actions and maybe stuff like the red light cameras wouldn&#8217;t be necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2454</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ima Safedriver, I live in Southern California and it seems like no one signals anymore, and people seem to think it&#039;s ok to tailgate. I wish more cops would write tickets for these law breakers. I don&#039;t have any problems getting a ticket if an officer gives me a ticket because I know I made a mistake, it&#039;s just those redlight cameras I don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ima Safedriver, I live in Southern California and it seems like no one signals anymore, and people seem to think it&#8217;s ok to tailgate. I wish more cops would write tickets for these law breakers. I don&#8217;t have any problems getting a ticket if an officer gives me a ticket because I know I made a mistake, it&#8217;s just those redlight cameras I don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-camera-mistakenly-tickets-soldier-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2452</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the purpose of redlight camera is to prevent accidents, why then, do they shorten the yellow light to change faster. How many more tickets do they generate for a 3 second yellow vs a 4 second yellow light. Maybe to generate more revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the purpose of redlight camera is to prevent accidents, why then, do they shorten the yellow light to change faster. How many more tickets do they generate for a 3 second yellow vs a 4 second yellow light. Maybe to generate more revenue.</p>
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