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		<title>By: Phil Mckrackin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Mckrackin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the law is being broken they will enforce it. If you want to decrease the amount of money the government takes in from traffic fines simply reduce the number of traffic violations. As a commercial driver you probably drove as fast as you could get away with in order to meet your deadline for pick up or delivery. or to keep a schedule. If you complied with the speed limits and obeyed all the other traffic laws safety would take care of itself and the police could concentrate on other more important issues. Let me ask you, how many tickets did you recieve where you were in 100% compliance and you still recieved a citation? I do agree with you on the global warming being a scam though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the law is being broken they will enforce it. If you want to decrease the amount of money the government takes in from traffic fines simply reduce the number of traffic violations. As a commercial driver you probably drove as fast as you could get away with in order to meet your deadline for pick up or delivery. or to keep a schedule. If you complied with the speed limits and obeyed all the other traffic laws safety would take care of itself and the police could concentrate on other more important issues. Let me ask you, how many tickets did you recieve where you were in 100% compliance and you still recieved a citation? I do agree with you on the global warming being a scam though.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie E Barrett</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/no-more-fines-a-traffic-safety-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-15490</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddie E Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that this is one of the major problems on the roadways in the United States. I spent 40 years as a commercial transport operator and a commercial motor coach operator and I can tell you that this threat to the drivers of all vehicles are effected in a negative manner by what I consider government at all levels to be corrupt and every thing they do is to increase the money they are able to control whether it be income tax, property tax, road use tax, sales tax etc, etc. I am amazed that another can see this scam that has been perpetuated upon the American public although it is far older than the global warming scam it has been a very expensive one and has been an instrument I believe in the premature deaths of a number of people not to mention the burden placed upon those earning a living behind the wheel of a commercial vehicle. Wouldn&#039;t it be marvelous to return our law enforcement agencies back to concentrating on the public safety of the citizens they have sworn to protect. Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that this is one of the major problems on the roadways in the United States. I spent 40 years as a commercial transport operator and a commercial motor coach operator and I can tell you that this threat to the drivers of all vehicles are effected in a negative manner by what I consider government at all levels to be corrupt and every thing they do is to increase the money they are able to control whether it be income tax, property tax, road use tax, sales tax etc, etc. I am amazed that another can see this scam that has been perpetuated upon the American public although it is far older than the global warming scam it has been a very expensive one and has been an instrument I believe in the premature deaths of a number of people not to mention the burden placed upon those earning a living behind the wheel of a commercial vehicle. Wouldn&#8217;t it be marvelous to return our law enforcement agencies back to concentrating on the public safety of the citizens they have sworn to protect. Fred</p>
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		<title>By: jame</title>
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		<dc:creator>jame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i let a friend borrow my car and she got a speeding ticket does that make mine insurance go up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i let a friend borrow my car and she got a speeding ticket does that make mine insurance go up</p>
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		<title>By: giles farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>giles farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing for sure- if people fear higher insurance rates they must fear ticket costs as well. They&#039;re both money.

In Europe fines are strictly civil- they can take the vehicle but not the driver, no arrest powers on civil matters. If money losses don&#039;t deter then the only thing left is jail, which some don&#039;t mind either. 

Probably road design and flexible traffic controls are more effective overall at reducing risks. The suggested changes aren&#039;t really changes from the driver&#039;s point of view, but of course are well-advised as to removing the incentives to bad behaviour by LEO.

BTW- always register the vehicle out-of-state and in a company name. Can&#039;t tell you how many tickets are avoided that way, all &quot;business offenses&quot; or paperwork violations are immunized. These only apply to in-state vehicles and to drivers with personal registrations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing for sure- if people fear higher insurance rates they must fear ticket costs as well. They&#8217;re both money.</p>
<p>In Europe fines are strictly civil- they can take the vehicle but not the driver, no arrest powers on civil matters. If money losses don&#8217;t deter then the only thing left is jail, which some don&#8217;t mind either. </p>
<p>Probably road design and flexible traffic controls are more effective overall at reducing risks. The suggested changes aren&#8217;t really changes from the driver&#8217;s point of view, but of course are well-advised as to removing the incentives to bad behaviour by LEO.</p>
<p>BTW- always register the vehicle out-of-state and in a company name. Can&#8217;t tell you how many tickets are avoided that way, all &#8220;business offenses&#8221; or paperwork violations are immunized. These only apply to in-state vehicles and to drivers with personal registrations.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i borrowed a family members car to take my father home today,as the car uses alot less gas than my truck and its a very long drive, a state patrol man pulled us over and said the car was loud (it was not)also said liscence plate light was out (it was)so he informs me my neice has 2 unpaid parking tickets and the plates are suspended,so i tell him the plates are good til feb 2009(i know this cuz i looked before i used the car as i am a responsible driver)and havent had a ticket in 14 years. so this idiot cop gives me a ticket for bad plates and no ticket/bad lights on plates, basically-i got a ticket  for something i diddnt do and no ticket for what he pulled me over for.i hope they throw this out of court otherwise im gonna fight it-hate to waste tax payers money but what else can i do? i will take it to jury trial if i have too even if it costs me more money cuz i refuse to give the pri(k the satisfaction- dave wisconsin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i borrowed a family members car to take my father home today,as the car uses alot less gas than my truck and its a very long drive, a state patrol man pulled us over and said the car was loud (it was not)also said liscence plate light was out (it was)so he informs me my neice has 2 unpaid parking tickets and the plates are suspended,so i tell him the plates are good til feb 2009(i know this cuz i looked before i used the car as i am a responsible driver)and havent had a ticket in 14 years. so this idiot cop gives me a ticket for bad plates and no ticket/bad lights on plates, basically-i got a ticket  for something i diddnt do and no ticket for what he pulled me over for.i hope they throw this out of court otherwise im gonna fight it-hate to waste tax payers money but what else can i do? i will take it to jury trial if i have too even if it costs me more money cuz i refuse to give the pri(k the satisfaction- dave wisconsin</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate do this but Im about to rant and rave for a minute or two. 

First of all I truly do respect police men and women. However the true corruption that goes on (and I&#039;m not talking about every officer) ruins our respect and personally mine. The corruption in my town and the surrounding town is ludicrous including a lot of the state police. 

My Uncle frank is an ex-MA statie. And of my good friends who is a cop want to quit because of the bullsh*t that is going on in the system nowadays. Yes officer Joe we do need you and want you to be there when shit hits the fan. 

However, there is feeling that why should I trust an officer just because I now need his help. Slow response times and sh*tty please work isn&#039;t solving anything!!! 

I just read a recent study that guess how many accidents were caused by speed??? 50, 60, 70% no 4% just four. 

Honestly tell me when a True traffic survey was done about reasonable and prudent speed limits which is required? Look at our Europeans palls this done at least every two years. But not us. Please tell me in a honest opinion that 75 or 80 miles per hour on a three or four lane highway is not reasonable and prudent. 

Also what up this general speed limit settings just because of a population section where it is actually prudent to drive a different higher or lower speed limit (if that makes any sense). 

Anyways I digress that look at the unfair judgment on speeding. Oh no its cool because you dont have a speeding record and youre ONLY going 90 in a 55. Oh wait Mr. I have two tickets on the books Ill charge you for 10 maybe even five over the speed limit. 

Obviously people are going to speed when the speed limits are unreasonable! 

I completely agree with this article that a point system not a monetary system is a much better reasoning for speeding etc. 

The more tickets the higher youre Insurance rate goes up. Also though I think serious offenses like OUI and DUI should be STRICKLY enforced and with severe punishments HIGH fines and long I mean very long license suspensions aka years just for the first one. etc. This is just one example. Also the quotta is illegal but states have gotten around this. MA just 3 years started a system that every ticket a statie writes he gets an hour of overtime and half an hour of overtime for a written warning. 

I know this is just a rant and possibly some good ideas but then again Im probably f*cked in the head by OJ&#039;s standards (no offense). Obviously are system is F*CKED up and something needs to be done about it. At leat restate joe I do truly respect ya maybe not trust ya but respect ya. Im out for now. Peace and love</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate do this but Im about to rant and rave for a minute or two. </p>
<p>First of all I truly do respect police men and women. However the true corruption that goes on (and I&#8217;m not talking about every officer) ruins our respect and personally mine. The corruption in my town and the surrounding town is ludicrous including a lot of the state police. </p>
<p>My Uncle frank is an ex-MA statie. And of my good friends who is a cop want to quit because of the bullsh*t that is going on in the system nowadays. Yes officer Joe we do need you and want you to be there when shit hits the fan. </p>
<p>However, there is feeling that why should I trust an officer just because I now need his help. Slow response times and sh*tty please work isn&#8217;t solving anything!!! </p>
<p>I just read a recent study that guess how many accidents were caused by speed??? 50, 60, 70% no 4% just four. </p>
<p>Honestly tell me when a True traffic survey was done about reasonable and prudent speed limits which is required? Look at our Europeans palls this done at least every two years. But not us. Please tell me in a honest opinion that 75 or 80 miles per hour on a three or four lane highway is not reasonable and prudent. </p>
<p>Also what up this general speed limit settings just because of a population section where it is actually prudent to drive a different higher or lower speed limit (if that makes any sense). </p>
<p>Anyways I digress that look at the unfair judgment on speeding. Oh no its cool because you dont have a speeding record and youre ONLY going 90 in a 55. Oh wait Mr. I have two tickets on the books Ill charge you for 10 maybe even five over the speed limit. </p>
<p>Obviously people are going to speed when the speed limits are unreasonable! </p>
<p>I completely agree with this article that a point system not a monetary system is a much better reasoning for speeding etc. </p>
<p>The more tickets the higher youre Insurance rate goes up. Also though I think serious offenses like OUI and DUI should be STRICKLY enforced and with severe punishments HIGH fines and long I mean very long license suspensions aka years just for the first one. etc. This is just one example. Also the quotta is illegal but states have gotten around this. MA just 3 years started a system that every ticket a statie writes he gets an hour of overtime and half an hour of overtime for a written warning. </p>
<p>I know this is just a rant and possibly some good ideas but then again Im probably f*cked in the head by OJ&#8217;s standards (no offense). Obviously are system is F*CKED up and something needs to be done about it. At leat restate joe I do truly respect ya maybe not trust ya but respect ya. Im out for now. Peace and love</p>
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		<title>By: YetAnotherSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>YetAnotherSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, what you cops (ie stevo) keep bringing up is the example of the guy excessively speeding and driving very unsafe for conditions- nobody here ever argues that that guy shouldn&#039;t be stopped.

However, that scenario likley represents 1% of tickets written. The other 99% of speeding tickets go to average citizens that are driving safely for conditions, but are deemed &quot;speeders&quot; nontheless. That&#039;s what everyone hates and that&#039;s why traffic cops that write such citations are disrespected.

Common sense, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, what you cops (ie stevo) keep bringing up is the example of the guy excessively speeding and driving very unsafe for conditions- nobody here ever argues that that guy shouldn&#8217;t be stopped.</p>
<p>However, that scenario likley represents 1% of tickets written. The other 99% of speeding tickets go to average citizens that are driving safely for conditions, but are deemed &#8220;speeders&#8221; nontheless. That&#8217;s what everyone hates and that&#8217;s why traffic cops that write such citations are disrespected.</p>
<p>Common sense, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work part-time at two law enforcement agencies in Wisconsin.  The departments see no money from any tickets I write.  The majority of the money goes to the state, some goes into a statewide fund to provide funding to officers, and about 1% goes into the municipalities general fund (not to the department&#039;s fund).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work part-time at two law enforcement agencies in Wisconsin.  The departments see no money from any tickets I write.  The majority of the money goes to the state, some goes into a statewide fund to provide funding to officers, and about 1% goes into the municipalities general fund (not to the department&#8217;s fund).</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, no more fines.  Instead there is a new sliding scale.

For example:

They catch some jerkoff doing 120 in a 35 zone.  No ticket, no fine.  They take him home to his family and give him a revolver with one round and he has to point it at the head of someone he loves.  He pulls the trigger.  Then he can understand just how f&#039;ing stupid it is to drive recklessly and endanger someone else&#039;s life.  If he&#039;s going to kill someone, he may as well kill someone close to him, rather than someone close to me.

This works especially well for drunk driving.   Each time the person gets caught, they add another round to the gun, until eventually he does kill someone he cares about.

One idea I&#039;ve always liked would be; everytime some young punk in a ricer is caught racing, they take a part off his car.  &quot;That wing cost you $2000?  Too bad&quot;.  Personally, I&#039;d take his steering wheel first.

Most of you people posting here are just bitter because studies have shown that 60% of the people who get tickets and cause accidents, do it over and over again.  And guess what?  They then come on this website and whine about it because Mr. Big Bad Policeman stopped them from driving like a douchebag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, no more fines.  Instead there is a new sliding scale.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>They catch some jerkoff doing 120 in a 35 zone.  No ticket, no fine.  They take him home to his family and give him a revolver with one round and he has to point it at the head of someone he loves.  He pulls the trigger.  Then he can understand just how f&#8217;ing stupid it is to drive recklessly and endanger someone else&#8217;s life.  If he&#8217;s going to kill someone, he may as well kill someone close to him, rather than someone close to me.</p>
<p>This works especially well for drunk driving.   Each time the person gets caught, they add another round to the gun, until eventually he does kill someone he cares about.</p>
<p>One idea I&#8217;ve always liked would be; everytime some young punk in a ricer is caught racing, they take a part off his car.  &#8220;That wing cost you $2000?  Too bad&#8221;.  Personally, I&#8217;d take his steering wheel first.</p>
<p>Most of you people posting here are just bitter because studies have shown that 60% of the people who get tickets and cause accidents, do it over and over again.  And guess what?  They then come on this website and whine about it because Mr. Big Bad Policeman stopped them from driving like a douchebag.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officer Josh.  How nice it would be if you could truly drive down the road, mind your own business, abide by all the laws and never be cited.  

Look at what&#039;s happening with the DOT Numbering regulations.  The enforcement officers are citing ordinary hobbyists, driving their cars to the race track.  Calling them &quot;commercial&quot;.  Bologna.

Officers are stretching these numbering regulations beyond what the law is to try to get everyone to have a number.  Why?  Because it&#039;s easier for them than trying to figure out if a racer is in business or just recreation.  AND the State gets the fines.

Just because you&#039;re not breaking a law doesn&#039;t mean you won&#039;t be cited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officer Josh.  How nice it would be if you could truly drive down the road, mind your own business, abide by all the laws and never be cited.  </p>
<p>Look at what&#8217;s happening with the DOT Numbering regulations.  The enforcement officers are citing ordinary hobbyists, driving their cars to the race track.  Calling them &#8220;commercial&#8221;.  Bologna.</p>
<p>Officers are stretching these numbering regulations beyond what the law is to try to get everyone to have a number.  Why?  Because it&#8217;s easier for them than trying to figure out if a racer is in business or just recreation.  AND the State gets the fines.</p>
<p>Just because you&#8217;re not breaking a law doesn&#8217;t mean you won&#8217;t be cited.</p>
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