Comments on: A Beginner’s Guide To Lemon Laws: What You Need To Know http://blog.motorists.org/lemon-law-guide-information/ News For Drivers Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:16:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Karl Vogelheim http://blog.motorists.org/lemon-law-guide-information/comment-page-1/#comment-9219 Karl Vogelheim Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:52:08 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/lemon-law-guide-information/#comment-9219 I have been around the vehicle business for over 40 years at all levels from the manufacturer (Ford and American Motors). I have never seen a vehicle that could not be fixed. We bought back many cars when I was at American Motors. Funny, when we re-sold them to the next owner (used) they never had a problem and we never saw them again. You would be surprised at the number of owners who could not afford the cars or payments, who had "lemon" problems. There are and were many "lemon" problems that were and are owner problems. With the modern automobile, there are virtually no problems. Don't even start on the "good old days". These new vehicles are "bullet proof", so this column by Mr. Peters is really irrelevant. Had it been written 30 years ago it might have had some credence but today it is irrelevant. I suggest Mr. Peters pick another subject. I have been around the vehicle business for over 40 years at all levels from the manufacturer (Ford and American Motors). I have never seen a vehicle that could not be fixed.

We bought back many cars when I was at American Motors. Funny, when we re-sold them to the next owner (used) they never had a problem and we never saw them again. You would be surprised at the number of owners who could not afford the cars or payments, who had “lemon” problems.

There are and were many “lemon” problems that were and are owner problems.

With the modern automobile, there are virtually no problems. Don’t even start on the “good old days”. These new vehicles are “bullet proof”, so this column by Mr. Peters is really irrelevant. Had it been written 30 years ago it might have had some credence but today it is irrelevant.

I suggest Mr. Peters pick another subject.

]]> By: Hubcap http://blog.motorists.org/lemon-law-guide-information/comment-page-1/#comment-9179 Hubcap Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:32:51 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/lemon-law-guide-information/#comment-9179 Absolutely! And there are those that never get addressed at all. A design flaw is a defect that will be present in every vehicle of that model and I don’t think that constitutes a lemon. A lemon is usually one vehicle with a particular problem that supposedly can’t be fixed. At least that’s how I see it. Absolutely! And there are those that never get addressed at all. A design flaw is a defect that will be present in every vehicle of that model and I don’t think that constitutes a lemon. A lemon is usually one vehicle with a particular problem that supposedly can’t be fixed. At least that’s how I see it.

]]> By: Gigs http://blog.motorists.org/lemon-law-guide-information/comment-page-1/#comment-9141 Gigs Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:01:13 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/lemon-law-guide-information/#comment-9141 Hubcap, surely there's been a case of a real design flaw that the manufacturer has drug their feet on issuing a recall for. To claim that such a thing has never happened seems to be an exceptional claim. Hubcap, surely there’s been a case of a real design flaw that the manufacturer has drug their feet on issuing a recall for.

To claim that such a thing has never happened seems to be an exceptional claim.

]]> By: Hubcap http://blog.motorists.org/lemon-law-guide-information/comment-page-1/#comment-9109 Hubcap Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:30:41 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/lemon-law-guide-information/#comment-9109 I have NEVER seen a lemon law buy-back in almost 20 years of being a California dealer technician. In my opinon there is no such thing as a "lemon"; there is no problem that "can't be fixed". 99.9% of the time the vehicle's owner is at fault because they simply will not allow sufficient time to perform the repairs. When they discover the tech can't just wave a magic wand and make their weird happens-only-on-left-turns-in-the-desert-during-a-full-moon-with-six-naked-nuns-in-the-back-seat stalling problem go away, they cry "lemon law" like that's going to change what's wrong with the car. Some problems, especially electrical, noises and vibrations can be pretty tough to diagnose; I made a career (and a nice six-figure income) fixing the "unfixable". But it ain't magic and lemons are fruit. I have NEVER seen a lemon law buy-back in almost 20 years of being a California dealer technician.

In my opinon there is no such thing as a “lemon”; there is no problem that “can’t be fixed”.

99.9% of the time the vehicle’s owner is at fault because they simply will not allow sufficient time to perform the repairs. When they discover the tech can’t just wave a magic wand and make their weird happens-only-on-left-turns-in-the-desert-during-a-full-moon-with-six-naked-nuns-in-the-back-seat stalling problem go away, they cry “lemon law” like that’s going to change what’s wrong with the car.

Some problems, especially electrical, noises and vibrations can be pretty tough to diagnose; I made a career (and a nice six-figure income) fixing the “unfixable”.

But it ain’t magic and lemons are fruit.

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