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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-13556</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...I have no respect for the law enforcement.  They have treated me like scum every time I&#039;ve been pulled over and I&#039;ve tried to be nothing but sweet.  I&#039;ve been mocked by police and insulted by them and they show complete disregard for the laws they are &quot;enforcing&quot; day in and day out.  Not all police officers are as terrible as the ones I have encountered, however there have been enough bad experiences for me to affect how I feel about the law enforcement in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;I have no respect for the law enforcement.  They have treated me like scum every time I&#8217;ve been pulled over and I&#8217;ve tried to be nothing but sweet.  I&#8217;ve been mocked by police and insulted by them and they show complete disregard for the laws they are &#8220;enforcing&#8221; day in and day out.  Not all police officers are as terrible as the ones I have encountered, however there have been enough bad experiences for me to affect how I feel about the law enforcement in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-4877</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Libertarian Republican and have lost almost all respect for law enforcement. All they want to do is rape the public of our money to line their pockets. They are truly above the law and they know. Arrogance, authority and a gun is a dangerous combination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Libertarian Republican and have lost almost all respect for law enforcement. All they want to do is rape the public of our money to line their pockets. They are truly above the law and they know. Arrogance, authority and a gun is a dangerous combination.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3944</link>
		<dc:creator>JOE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee, it&#039;s funny...not... that you should mention that. I&#039;ve just starting noting that when coming come from work out on a major expressway. I get off work at midnight and slightly thereafter, I&#039;m on the road. The Oklahoma State Police have started setting out there with their lights off. Here&#039;s the whole thing in a nutshell, if it&#039;s on a public road....anything is game. There&#039;s are no limitations. They can do anything they desire.  Some of it should be illegal but it&#039;s not. They can even set on private property. It&#039;s up to the property owner to kick them off. And there&#039;s probably even exceptions to that. The law is....there is no law against all the crap they do. Unless some of you get together and start bugging your congressmen, nothing is going to change and the cops know that. If it was truly about safety I might feel a little different but it&#039;s not and everyone knows it. Radar doesn&#039;t find bad drivers or bad driving habits. These guys can&#039;t see a driver until they&#039;ve passed them. All the cop sees is his radar. But, that&#039;s all he needs to see because remember it&#039;s not about safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee, it&#8217;s funny&#8230;not&#8230; that you should mention that. I&#8217;ve just starting noting that when coming come from work out on a major expressway. I get off work at midnight and slightly thereafter, I&#8217;m on the road. The Oklahoma State Police have started setting out there with their lights off. Here&#8217;s the whole thing in a nutshell, if it&#8217;s on a public road&#8230;.anything is game. There&#8217;s are no limitations. They can do anything they desire.  Some of it should be illegal but it&#8217;s not. They can even set on private property. It&#8217;s up to the property owner to kick them off. And there&#8217;s probably even exceptions to that. The law is&#8230;.there is no law against all the crap they do. Unless some of you get together and start bugging your congressmen, nothing is going to change and the cops know that. If it was truly about safety I might feel a little different but it&#8217;s not and everyone knows it. Radar doesn&#8217;t find bad drivers or bad driving habits. These guys can&#8217;t see a driver until they&#8217;ve passed them. All the cop sees is his radar. But, that&#8217;s all he needs to see because remember it&#8217;s not about safety.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3935</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the police legally allowed to sit parked with their lights out, all lights, while waiting for speeders? This is a big thing in the city I live in, they sit on the side of the road or in a parking lot with no lights on &amp; you can&#039;t see them until you are right up on them, I thought that was illegal,has that law changed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the police legally allowed to sit parked with their lights out, all lights, while waiting for speeders? This is a big thing in the city I live in, they sit on the side of the road or in a parking lot with no lights on &amp; you can&#8217;t see them until you are right up on them, I thought that was illegal,has that law changed?</p>
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		<title>By: JOE</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>JOE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, the sheriffs&#039; department I&#039;&#039;m talking about in this case is actually in Tulsa county, Oklahoma. It&#039;s hard to get such figures but I read the percentages a few years ago in the paper. The department gets to keep under  20% of all traffic citation revenue. Frank, while I understand your theory, I really don&#039;t think that&#039;s the case here. I do get the impression however that the county commission who sets the budget does not want the sheriff using his resources on traffic stops. Of all the local governments, the county has the least funding to work with. And since there&#039;s no money in traffic stops, why do it unless a clear, dangerous situation is noted. Unlike the state and municipal cops,  if you get stopped by one of them,you probably, actually, deserve it because you&#039;ve presented some kind of dangerous driving action. 

Conversely, as I was saying earlier, over the last 30 years I&#039;ve observed far more sheriff deputies stopped to help block traffic for a stalled car, push a stalled car out of harms way or even seen one help change a tire on one occasion. They stop to move dangerous items that have been dropped on the roadway, ect. They are the lowest paid of all law enforcement yet they do more as a public servant then all the rest put together. Go figure. I&#039;m sure it happens occasionally but I can&#039;t remember the last time I seen a municipal cop help any driver. Once in a blue moon I see the state police helping a driver. Most of the time though the last two mentioned groups would instead just as soon help you out of your money. And no, I don&#039;t know any law enforcement officer, even a sheriff deputy, so I&#039;m not looking at this in a prejudice manner. I&#039;m just reporting what I&#039;ve observed over the years.  

I believe it leaves no doubt about the corrupting effects of revenue on law enforcement departments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, the sheriffs&#8217; department I&#8221;m talking about in this case is actually in Tulsa county, Oklahoma. It&#8217;s hard to get such figures but I read the percentages a few years ago in the paper. The department gets to keep under  20% of all traffic citation revenue. Frank, while I understand your theory, I really don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the case here. I do get the impression however that the county commission who sets the budget does not want the sheriff using his resources on traffic stops. Of all the local governments, the county has the least funding to work with. And since there&#8217;s no money in traffic stops, why do it unless a clear, dangerous situation is noted. Unlike the state and municipal cops,  if you get stopped by one of them,you probably, actually, deserve it because you&#8217;ve presented some kind of dangerous driving action. </p>
<p>Conversely, as I was saying earlier, over the last 30 years I&#8217;ve observed far more sheriff deputies stopped to help block traffic for a stalled car, push a stalled car out of harms way or even seen one help change a tire on one occasion. They stop to move dangerous items that have been dropped on the roadway, ect. They are the lowest paid of all law enforcement yet they do more as a public servant then all the rest put together. Go figure. I&#8217;m sure it happens occasionally but I can&#8217;t remember the last time I seen a municipal cop help any driver. Once in a blue moon I see the state police helping a driver. Most of the time though the last two mentioned groups would instead just as soon help you out of your money. And no, I don&#8217;t know any law enforcement officer, even a sheriff deputy, so I&#8217;m not looking at this in a prejudice manner. I&#8217;m just reporting what I&#8217;ve observed over the years.  </p>
<p>I believe it leaves no doubt about the corrupting effects of revenue on law enforcement departments.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3902</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i don&#039;t know about you Andrew but i have only seen one cop driving a charger. even if they did have nicer cars thats the car dealers cutting them a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i don&#8217;t know about you Andrew but i have only seen one cop driving a charger. even if they did have nicer cars thats the car dealers cutting them a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a uncle that used to be a traffic cop years ago. We no longer speak, but here is a example of &quot;the old days&quot; of speed traps. 

Radar guns had just came into use. The general public did not, for the most part, understand the new voodoo that made up the equipment and local courts backed their officers and new gadget without question. One patrol car had the cover of the heater/air conditioner blower motor removed for service from the interior. Just so happened the blower fan spun at 42 mph. This being found out when my uncle was playing with the new radar gun on a slow day. So he would set up in a 30mph zone, and tag away! So when the city needed revenue, THAT patrol went out. As the tickets rolled in, all being in the 42 mph range, a local lawyer handling most of the tickets put it together, and the car was fixed, the revenue went down, and people got wise. 

But as it was then as it is now, it&#039;s all about the money, and regardless how unscrupulous the means of attaining the revenue, the cops and cities are always self serving crooks.Drive by your local cop bar hangout, watch them stumble out drunk and they will be the first ones handing out DUI&#039;s the next night. Maybe &quot;self&quot; should be added before serve to the side stickers on all cop cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a uncle that used to be a traffic cop years ago. We no longer speak, but here is a example of &#8220;the old days&#8221; of speed traps. </p>
<p>Radar guns had just came into use. The general public did not, for the most part, understand the new voodoo that made up the equipment and local courts backed their officers and new gadget without question. One patrol car had the cover of the heater/air conditioner blower motor removed for service from the interior. Just so happened the blower fan spun at 42 mph. This being found out when my uncle was playing with the new radar gun on a slow day. So he would set up in a 30mph zone, and tag away! So when the city needed revenue, THAT patrol went out. As the tickets rolled in, all being in the 42 mph range, a local lawyer handling most of the tickets put it together, and the car was fixed, the revenue went down, and people got wise. </p>
<p>But as it was then as it is now, it&#8217;s all about the money, and regardless how unscrupulous the means of attaining the revenue, the cops and cities are always self serving crooks.Drive by your local cop bar hangout, watch them stumble out drunk and they will be the first ones handing out DUI&#8217;s the next night. Maybe &#8220;self&#8221; should be added before serve to the side stickers on all cop cars.</p>
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		<title>By: FRANK</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>FRANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Joe

The reason why most Sheriff Deputies do not write tickest is because their boss is an elected official. How well would that go over with his voters if his employees were out handing them tickets. I&#039;ve been in law enforcement many years and have found that the level of ticket writing is comparative to the attitude of the current administration (i.e. the mayor.city manager or department head). I sincerely hope that the tickets that I&#039;ve handed out over the years have been for the better of the driver.

I have been approached by past violators to tell me that the ticket I gave them cause them problems with their insurance or finances. Your life and other lives versus you paying for your selfishness on the roadway, you choose. But there was one DUI I gave a young man some time ago and he came to me five years later and said that what I did for him that night change his life for the better. He said that the DUI saved his life and he started making better choices in his life. The reason why he was stopped was for a speeding violation.

It may not mean anything to you but to a deputy,city police officer,constable,state trooper or any law enforcement agent to actually know that you mattered in saving a life is worth the venom that is injected in us on a daily basis. Remember drive safe and watch out for your fellow driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Joe</p>
<p>The reason why most Sheriff Deputies do not write tickest is because their boss is an elected official. How well would that go over with his voters if his employees were out handing them tickets. I&#8217;ve been in law enforcement many years and have found that the level of ticket writing is comparative to the attitude of the current administration (i.e. the mayor.city manager or department head). I sincerely hope that the tickets that I&#8217;ve handed out over the years have been for the better of the driver.</p>
<p>I have been approached by past violators to tell me that the ticket I gave them cause them problems with their insurance or finances. Your life and other lives versus you paying for your selfishness on the roadway, you choose. But there was one DUI I gave a young man some time ago and he came to me five years later and said that what I did for him that night change his life for the better. He said that the DUI saved his life and he started making better choices in his life. The reason why he was stopped was for a speeding violation.</p>
<p>It may not mean anything to you but to a deputy,city police officer,constable,state trooper or any law enforcement agent to actually know that you mattered in saving a life is worth the venom that is injected in us on a daily basis. Remember drive safe and watch out for your fellow driver.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3885</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What state is this Joe?  In Michigan, local municipalities get to keep 85% or greater in traffic tickets.  They tell you on the back of the ticket and what the state keeps (depending on the local municipal city).  For instance, one city showed that the states minimum charge for five over is $30 plus one point, the actual ticket for five over in this city is $155.  Also, local cops seem to drive nicer vehicles than Michigan State Troopers.  The local cops drive chargers and magnums (unmarked, and w/hemi&#039;s).  State Troopers are still driving the Police Interceptors (Ford Crown Victoria which are 99% marked except one per station unmarked).  State police get a salary, local cops get 20k plus in overtime (only going to court) per year in Michigan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What state is this Joe?  In Michigan, local municipalities get to keep 85% or greater in traffic tickets.  They tell you on the back of the ticket and what the state keeps (depending on the local municipal city).  For instance, one city showed that the states minimum charge for five over is $30 plus one point, the actual ticket for five over in this city is $155.  Also, local cops seem to drive nicer vehicles than Michigan State Troopers.  The local cops drive chargers and magnums (unmarked, and w/hemi&#8217;s).  State Troopers are still driving the Police Interceptors (Ford Crown Victoria which are 99% marked except one per station unmarked).  State police get a salary, local cops get 20k plus in overtime (only going to court) per year in Michigan!</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/its-traffic-ticket-season/comment-page-1/#comment-3880</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya know Matt, maybe someone was only picking him up and he was going to tow the car himself later. some people are like that because towing prices are outragious anyway, belive me i know. not all cops are idiots and you cant give a tickit for breaking down on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know Matt, maybe someone was only picking him up and he was going to tow the car himself later. some people are like that because towing prices are outragious anyway, belive me i know. not all cops are idiots and you cant give a tickit for breaking down on the road.</p>
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