You were right about my mistake regarding the “innocent until proven guilty”. I stand corrected.

Behind, in front of, alongside….continue for miles down the road and you COULD be arrested for eluding. Then you get to exercise your “innocent until proven guilty”.

You CAN be ordered out of a car. Come to NJ and refuse to get out of the car during a car stop. It can and HAS been done. Case law CLEARLY permits police to order the DRIVER out of a car during a motor vehicle stop. Refuse and you’ll be arrested for obstruction. This isn’t forum talk, that’s the law, whether or not you like it. Resist your arrest and that will be another charge. Assault the police officer and that will be another charge.

Once again, know what you’re talking about or at least stay at the Holiday Inn.

If the police are ‘pulling you over’ they would be in front of your vehicle [involuntary stop], if they are behind you then it is a voluntary stop. So that is just nonsense about ‘eluding’.
It wouldn’t be fair to call Pirate News an ‘anarchist’, it sound like he doesn’t want his rights violated.

The police have no authority to ‘order’ you out of your car. If they are going to make you come out of your car, then you are under arrest.
and don’t forget what the Supreme Court has said, if you are ‘detained’ [seized] for more than 15 minutes, consider yourself under arrest. The police have no right so search your car just because they arrested you-see recent ruling.

Using an audio recorder is mandatory. I’ve had a cop literally RUN AWAY from me when he saw my recorder during a traffic stop, claiming some lame “emergency” over the radio (no ticket). That same Barney Fife previously warned me “to watch my back”, when I saw him in a gas station. Cops routinely erase their own audio from police in-car videotapes, to allow cops to testilie in court.

Use cops’ in-car video to file criminal charges against cops from traffic crimes. Equal Protection doctrine in 14th Amendment to US Constitution requires that when govt employees get immunity, then everyone gets immunuty. Cops are never allowed to break a traffic law unless both emergency light and siren are on. If the judge refuses to arrest the cop, then all charges must be dismissed against you. I win those cases, even for running a stop sign.
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Radar detectors are useful, but cops rarely use radar to write tickets, often testilying about speed while never turning on radar. We have up to 36 cops per 22-miles using radar in TN, which more than tripled the death rate.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=unkaUV_NhK4

I’ve also talked my way out of 110 mph traffic tickets, not by begging or lying, but by standing my ground and not confessing, and having a little fun with the cop.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2106982041186787901

USDOT and Ralph Nader agree that speeding is SIX TIMES SAFER than driving a speed limit. It’s legal to drive 250 mph on the Autobahn in Germany during ordinary commuter traffic (which averages 130 mph), with better safety than 55 mph on US interstates. NMA sells that book by Mark Rask, American Autobahn, as seen on History Channel at a LEGAL 212 mph at night, in the rain, with 100% safety.
http://AmericanAutobahn.com

As for redlight camera tickets and parking tickets, the best legal defense is to throw the tickets in the trash and ignore them, for lacking personal service of process, according to lawyers, judges, politicians and Rules of Civil Procedure. Only suckers and slaves pay those tickets. Most of those ticket profits go to mafia contractors or overseas contractors, some in Commie China, not to govt in USA, so it’s un-American to pay those tickets. Even cops shoot those redlight scameras using real bullets.
http://piratenews.org/kill-robocops.html

I’ve seen cops literally stop drivers to park in the middle of the busy US highway in blind corners. On TV you see cops and drivers hit by crashes during traffic stops, because they failed to pull over at an exit. Traffic stops are a road hazard that’s the #1 killer of cops. Just tell the cop and judge you were concerned for the safety of the cop, and that’s why you didn’t stop until it was safe (defense of Necessity). Would you rather be arrested or rather be dead?

If the cop goes psycho, just shoot him, as many times as you can until he hits the ground and stops moving. Justifiable homicide in self defense is always legal, even for killing cops, as proven in many courts. Google Battle of Athens TN in 1946, where 500 ordinary citizens opened fire on 300 cops at a police station, using full-auto machine guns and dynomite, and made citizens arrests of all cops when they surrendered. The ordinary citizens were rewarded by Congress and the White House, and promoted to the news job of sheriff and all deputies.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=battle+of+athens+tennessee&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1

USA was founded on the concept of killing cops at the Battle of Lexington and Concord, where 100s of cops were killed in self defense. Remember that govt has always been run by psycho criminal thieves, serial killers and mass murderers, as proven throughout history. US Army Capt Hugh Thompson ordered his helicopter gunners to open fire on US soldiers in Vietnam, to stop the My Lai Massacre. Even bankrupt Nazi gay-porn star governor Arnold Schwarzennegger got famous killing a police station full of cops in Terminator. Hollywood and America love copkillers — I wonder why?

The choice is yours. Do you want to play in the kiddie pool, or play in the Superbowl? Are you a baby or a man? Real men know how to make a citizen’s arrest, how to testify to a grand jury, how to file Internal Affairs complaints (don’t expect anything except a report), carry a handgun at all times, and can argue a case in court without a lawyer (many little women do that too, who tend to stay cooler under pressure due to less testosterone). That’s the only good thing you can say about cops, too bad they mostly use that knowledge for evil to overthrow USA. Even the “good” cops are brainwashed (google Officer Jack McLamb and Sheriff Richard Mack), and no cop ever arrests crooked cops (unless they hide behind crooked cops at Internal Affairs).

“10% of cops are honest, 10% dishonest, and 80% wish they were honest.”
-Detective Frank Serpico NYPD, testimony to Knapp Commission

I’ve gotten over 100 mafia police contractors fired, and a court clerk fired, and filed 3 class actions, as reward for stealing my legally parked cars (no tickets). That was my punishment for writing newspaper articles about police-approved copkillings. Cops know they’re not at the top of the food chain, and you can use that to your advantage.
http://PirateNews.org/newslinks.html

You MUST understand that police depts are merely criminal rackets run amok. Andy Griffin is just an actor on TeeVee. Wake up from the Matrix.

Police are people doing a job. People react to other people. Start acting like “Che” during a normal car stop and you can kiss ANY chance of a warning goodbye. Many officers haven’t decided whether or not to issue a summons until they “meet” the drivers. Come off with a confrontational attitude right away (perfectly legal for you) and you’re going to get your initial ticket AND any others you might not be aware of (perfectly legal for officer). Think about it, the guy hollering at you telling you “I’ll see you in court” is making it perfectly clear he wants his day in court in front of a Judge. The officer is going to write EVERY ticket upping the ante should you loose. If every extra ticket is worth another $150 it’s going to be twice as frustrating should you not convince the Judge of your innocence.

The part about NOT being memorable is accurate. Every officer is different and each one handles their stops differently (sound familiar? people are all different too!). You may or may not get a warning, but act like a “smacker” and you’re guaranteed a ticket. Why do it?? The funniest stories from some officers are the ones told by guys/gals who NEVER write tickets then stop someone like the anarchist poster below! The officer tells how he is pretty much boxed into a corner requiring him/her to write the ticket as the driver uses some of the tactics mentioned below!

Pirate…..#2: Keep driving until you think it’s safe, regardless if it’s 10 miles or the next exit might land you handcuffs. The dash cam will show you failing to stop. Don’t forget the extra ticket in addition to the criminal charge of eluding. (You don’t have to speed up to be charged with eluding)

#4: Don’t forget your date of birth should you not have your driver’s license with you. Don’t forget you can be ORDERED out of the car to the shoulder to answer the questions necessary to fill out the summons and positively identify yourself. Failure to comply will also end with you in handcuffs.

Some of your other tactics? Nothing is more fun than watching a guy come to court and try to use these things : ) The Judge shoots them down one at a time until the guy gets so pissed he reverts to name calling (30 days County Jail for contempt of court) OR he is ordered back into the court room in front of everyone to answer the Judge’s question about what he just mumbled under his breath while he was walking away. Answer? I didn’t say anything Judge. Judge: I didn’t think you did. Catch 22…..say it again and you’ll get 30 days starting NOW, don’t say it and you’ve just proven to everyone in court that you don’t have the courage to say it again to his face! I’ve seen it happen! One guy in 16 years had the courage. While en route to county jail he asked me what “consecutive” meant.

Everyone, be careful how you act unless you are very familiar with what you are doing. The story had good basic advice, don’t start deviating dramatically unless you are certain of what you are doing AND you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!

2. Pull over where it’s safe, even if it means driving 10 miles for a parking space. Parking in the break-down lane is unsafe and perhaps deadly, so drive to the next exit.

3. Don’t tell a cop you have a gun. Let him figure that out for himself, since every cop is told that by dispatch when calling for a driver license (unconstitutional internal passport) criminal background check.

4. Never answer a cop’s questions, except name and home address.

5. Any answer is probably a confession to a crime, such as “Do you know how fast I clocked you?” or “Didn’t you see that stop sign?” If you were racing at 110 mph, just laugh as the cop walks up and say, “What the hell are you doing out here (racing me)?!”

6. Never tell a cop if you’ve ever had a “traffic ticket” (criminal conviction). Most don’t show up on background checks, and all will be used against you to decide whether to write a ticket, upgrade the ticket to a more serious charge, or increase sentence/judgment in court.

7. Never grovel to a cop. Kick his/her ass in court if you want to.

8. Lying to a cop is felony obstruction of justice — ask Martha Stewart.

9. Never ask a cop legal advice — they’re not licensed lawyers (neither are 75% of judges). Cops are always allowed to lie, since they are not under oath. Judges and prosecutors are always allowed to lie in court, since they’re never under oath.

10. Buy a copy of the cop’s in-car video, to prove all the crimes the cop perped, while showing no crime by you. File an affidavit of probable cause for criminal complaint against the cop with the grand jury, and demand to testify about the cop’s crime you eyewitnessed. File a Bill of Costs with the clerk after you win in court, for refund of your legal expenses.

11. Parking tickets and photo tickets can be ignored and thrown in the trash, for lacking personal service of process.

12. Always file counterclaims in civil traffic ticket trials. File class actions against police when possible, for violation of US Constitution and 42 US Code 1983 (Ku Klux Klan Act).

12. Always remember that Gangster Government is run by insane criminals with millions of guns. Traffic court is like asking Al Capone to return the money his hitmen stole from you. Playing hardball get’s superior results to begging like a slave. Read The Law for yourself, then enforce it on Gangsta Govt (they hate it when you do that).

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