Comments on: How A Simple Flyer Turned The Tides http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/ News For Drivers Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:16:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Phil Mckrackin http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-14140 Phil Mckrackin Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:28:48 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-14140 If people actually paid attention to the posted speed limits speed bumbs wouldn't be needed to prevent 60mph traffic through residential areas where kids are riding bikes and skateboards. I'd rather have my kids subjected to a 20mph brush with a car because he was lured into the roadway by the speed bump than have him suffer a 60mph brush with the uncontrolled traffic that disregards the posted limits. If people actually paid attention to the posted speed limits speed bumbs wouldn’t be needed to prevent 60mph traffic through residential areas where kids are riding bikes and skateboards. I’d rather have my kids subjected to a 20mph brush with a car because he was lured into the roadway by the speed bump than have him suffer a 60mph brush with the uncontrolled traffic that disregards the posted limits.

]]> By: jim http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-5452 jim Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:18:34 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-5452 Does anyone know of grant-money available for traffic research. Eg, traffic mechanisms, improvements, etc. Thanks for reading, jim Does anyone know of grant-money available for traffic research.

Eg, traffic mechanisms, improvements, etc.

Thanks for reading,
jim

]]> By: Richard http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-4472 Richard Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:19:19 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-4472 Speed bumps are sprouting up in my Maryland neighborhood like weeds. Big, ugly ones made of piles of asphalt. There is no way I could ride over those bumps at the posted 20 MPH speed without damaging my car. But than slowing me down, those bumps are keeping me home. I used to support my local merchants, but now, I think of the speed bumps I have to dodge while driving to local shopping areas, and order from the web instead. No sales tax, either in many cases, so I guess in a way, they also deny my local governments at least some of the money they need to install even more of them. That might be the ONLY positive thing I can think that speed bumps accomplish. Speed bumps are sprouting up in my Maryland neighborhood like weeds. Big, ugly ones made of piles of asphalt.

There is no way I could ride over those bumps at the posted 20 MPH speed without damaging my car.

But than slowing me down, those bumps are keeping me home.

I used to support my local merchants, but now, I think of the speed bumps I have to dodge while driving to local shopping areas, and order from the web instead.

No sales tax, either in many cases, so I guess in a way, they also deny my local governments at least some of the money they need to install even more of them. That might be the ONLY positive thing I can think that speed bumps accomplish.

]]> By: Richard http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-4471 Richard Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:07:28 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-4471 Speed bumps are growing in my Maryland neighborhood like weeds. There is no way I can ride over those bumps at the posted 20 MPH speed. More like 10 - 15 or I'd damage my car. But aanother thing that speed bumps accomplish, aside from slowing me down, is keeping me home. I used to support my local merchants, but now, I think of the speed bumps I have to dodge while driving to local shopping areas, and order from the web instead. No sales tax, either in most cases, so I guess in a way, they also deny my local governments the money they need to install even more of them. That might be the ONLY positive attribute I can think of related to speed bumps. Speed bumps are growing in my Maryland neighborhood like weeds. There is no way I can ride over those bumps at the posted 20 MPH speed. More like 10 – 15 or I’d damage my car. But aanother thing that speed bumps accomplish, aside from slowing me down, is keeping me home.

I used to support my local merchants, but now, I think of the speed bumps I have to dodge while driving to local shopping areas, and order from the web instead.

No sales tax, either in most cases, so I guess in a way, they also deny my local governments the money they need to install even more of them. That might be the ONLY positive attribute I can think of related to speed bumps.

]]> By: dan http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-4192 dan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:45:41 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-4192 every bump and pothole in the road knocks you vehicles alignment out just a little bit. if you had speed bumps in your neighbor hood you would be hitting multiple bumps multiple times a day. i have them near my house and i HATE them. i cant hit them in my pickup at 25 without bouncing my big ass up and down in the cab. and if youve ever driven a big truck (fire truck, dump truck, any other sort of heavy vehicle) you would know that you have to damn near stop to cross them especially one with air ride seating (most if not all new fire trucks have them) how many times do you want that fire engine slowing down or stopping while your families possessions. or possibly you or your family get help? if it were me, i want that rig balls to the walls all the way to my house. but hey, i can't see your house from mine, so you do what you want every bump and pothole in the road knocks you vehicles alignment out just a little bit. if you had speed bumps in your neighbor hood you would be hitting multiple bumps multiple times a day. i have them near my house and i HATE them. i cant hit them in my pickup at 25 without bouncing my big ass up and down in the cab. and if youve ever driven a big truck (fire truck, dump truck, any other sort of heavy vehicle) you would know that you have to damn near stop to cross them especially one with air ride seating (most if not all new fire trucks have them) how many times do you want that fire engine slowing down or stopping while your families possessions. or possibly you or your family get help? if it were me, i want that rig balls to the walls all the way to my house. but hey, i can’t see your house from mine, so you do what you want

]]> By: Frank http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-1967 Frank Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:56:15 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-1967 Where can I get more information on actual research done about speedbumps and damage to vehicles and INCREASING accidents. Where can I get more information on actual research done about speedbumps and damage to vehicles and INCREASING accidents.

]]> By: Kathleen Calongne http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-1375 Kathleen Calongne Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:45:13 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-1375 John, please provide the research that fire trucks and ambulances can travel over speed humps/tables at 25 mph. I've studied the issue for many years, and not one study states this. Speeds vary from trucks having to come almost to a complete stop prior to each hump to about 15 mph, depending on the size, suspension, and sensitive equipment carried by the vehicle. Delay of 100% was experienced in Austin, TX, WHILE TRANSPORTING A PATIENT. Furthermore, humps are often placed so close together rescue vehicles cannot regain cruising speed between the humps. One person suffering bone fractures in Florida was air lifted to a hospital to avoid being transported by ambulance back over the humps that were crossed to rescue her. The tone of your posting is a good example of something I've noticed in this discussion for years. People who are adamant about installing speed humps, which are meant to create discomfort and potential injury to all, especially those with some disabilities, are motivated by the sam sort of aggression and indignation toward others that motivates people who speed through neighborhoods. There are many traffic calming techniques that do not create more risk than they cure. It is curious that only those that can hurt others satisfy some people. John, please provide the research that fire trucks and ambulances can travel over speed humps/tables at 25 mph. I’ve studied the issue for many years, and not one study states this.

Speeds vary from trucks having to come almost to a complete stop prior to each hump to about 15 mph, depending on the size, suspension, and sensitive equipment carried by the vehicle. Delay of 100% was experienced in Austin, TX, WHILE TRANSPORTING A PATIENT. Furthermore, humps are often placed so close together rescue vehicles cannot regain cruising speed between the humps. One person suffering bone fractures in Florida was air lifted to a hospital to avoid being transported by ambulance back over the humps that were crossed to rescue her.

The tone of your posting is a good example of something I’ve noticed in this discussion for years. People who are adamant about installing speed humps, which are meant to create discomfort and potential injury to all, especially those with some disabilities, are motivated by the sam sort of aggression and indignation toward others that motivates people who speed through neighborhoods.

There are many traffic calming techniques that do not create more risk than they cure. It is curious that only those that can hurt others satisfy some people.

]]> By: John Denji http://blog.motorists.org/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/comment-page-1/#comment-1105 John Denji Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:42:10 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/speed-bumps/how-a-simple-flyer-turned-the-tides/#comment-1105 The person who wrote this flier is a complete moron. Speed bumps do not harm or slow down fire trucks, ambulances etc. If they are going 25 mph. Emergancy vehicles, once in a residential subdivision still must do 25 even to an emergancy because of kids, etc. Old hard, tall speed bumps are now replaced with speed tables. You still need to slow down, but they are much easier on vehicles. There has been many studies done on speed bumps and they all point to the fact that they WORK!We have had speed tables put in in our town and now it is a much better place to live. The only people who complained were the people who were SPEEDING! The only cars that were ever damaged should not of been on the road anyway because the cars were falling apart. We had 1 child killed to a speeder in a subdivision and 2 seriously hurt. After the speed tables were installed we have not had any injuries or deaths and everybody enjoys the quiter streets. Just SLOW DOWN The person who wrote this flier is a complete moron. Speed bumps do not harm or slow down fire trucks, ambulances etc. If they are going 25 mph. Emergancy vehicles, once in a residential subdivision still must do 25 even to an emergancy because of kids, etc. Old hard, tall speed bumps are now replaced with speed tables. You still need to slow down, but they are much easier on vehicles. There has been many studies done on speed bumps and they all point to the fact that they WORK!We have had speed tables put in in our town and now it is a much better place to live. The only people who complained were the people who were SPEEDING!
The only cars that were ever damaged should not of been on the road anyway because the cars were falling apart. We had 1 child killed to a speeder in a subdivision and 2 seriously hurt. After the speed tables were installed we have not had any injuries or deaths and everybody enjoys the quiter streets. Just SLOW DOWN

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