Comments on: Help Us Stop Short Yellow Lights

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:56:41 +0000

Ok, this is good and all but WHAT TIME IS CONSIDERED TOO SHORT?

By: Kim Potts

Kim Potts — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:55:02 +0000

Who can investigate these red ligh camera interections in Arlington, Texas?
1. Pioneer Parkway and Matlock,
2 .Pioneer Parkway and Cooper Street
3. Matlock and Arbrook. Please investigate.

By: Don’t miss tonights show! « Radio Free Oklahoma Blog

Don’t miss tonights show! « Radio Free Oklahoma Blog — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:49:50 +0000

[...] The NMA (National Motorists Association) Foundation is one organization attempting to address the issue with its Stop Short Yellow Lights Project: [...]

By: M. Don Hughes

M. Don Hughes — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:31:29 +0000

RE: MUTCD (the law)
I forgot to check Notify me.
But I would like to keep up with this as I have done an exhaustive study of this subject.

By: M. Don Hughes

M. Don Hughes — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:29:08 +0000

MUTCD (the law) says yellow light timing should be between 3 to 6 seconds.
This does not account for a delay of a predetermined time if a vehicle is within a specified distance of the light before it turns to red.

There is an additional allowance (all red light) for clearance of the intersection if you are in that intersection or if you did not have time to stop.

This option is not taken into allowance by these cameras that take pictures at the end of the yellow light.

In addition the all red light interval is optional. This is optional because some intersections do not have pedestrians or high traffic. I believe that not using this allowed red light interval in intentional to get more tickets.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:33:43 +0000

{Ref} quote:If the yellow light duration appears to be dangerously short, the NMA Foundation will dispatch a trained, objective traffic engineer to confirm the traffic light timing.

Will the NMA Foundation recheck the yellow light duration timing against ITE standards for minimum yellow duration. ITE standard provide longer yellow times than Federal (Missouri) MUTCD. ITE include length of intersection, different deceleration rate and prevailing speed (above) posted speed for yellow time calculation. General rule of thumb (actual) 40plus miles per hour 5second minumum- 6 seconds yellow time maximum with minumum 1/2 second opposing Red to Green delay. The Federal minumum yellow duration time is 3.0 seconds. Shorter than this is breaking the Federal Law of uniform traffic code devices. Hills, decline and weather effect deceleration rate. Posted 25 miles per hour s/b 4.00 seconds minumum yellow duration with conditions mentioned above.

By: The Motorama Dystopia. - Bracket Bending

The Motorama Dystopia. - Bracket Bending — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:42:13 +0000

[...] make work for politically connected contractors. Instead of longer yellow signals for safety we get shorter ones with red light cameras that make money for government and its contractors at our expense. Time [...]

By: Speed Trap Hunter

Speed Trap Hunter — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:41:11 +0000

Our problems have only just begun:

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2008/11/napolitano-head-of-homeland-security.html

http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2008/11/speed-cameras-for-economic-fascism-not.html

This is going to get much worse before it gets better…

STH

By: Todd

Todd — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:36:04 +0000

To Marie

This time I can answer your question on “How many seconds is considered a “short” yellow light?”

Do you remember when I said “Determining whether or not the yellow light time is appropriate depends on the relationship between the speed limit for that particular road and the yellow light duration” in my last comment. Well here it is. For speeds of 25 mph or less a 3.0 sec yellow light time is right, 30 mph should have a 3.5 yellow light time, 35 mph should have a 4.0 yellow light time, 40 mph should have a 4.5 yellow light time, 45 mph should have a 5.0 yellow light time, 50 mph should have a 5.5 yellow light time, and 55 mph should have a 6.0 yellow light time.

WARNING – This information on the relationship between the speed limits and yellow light times is from the National Motorists Association. This is not my information. All of the credit should go to the National Motorists association.

By: Todd

Todd — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:51:02 +0000

Marie you ask “How many seconds is considered a “short” yellow light?” I would love to answer that question to you but the problem is that when it comes to considering if the yellow light time is appropriate there are so many varibles to put into the equation. For example a 3 second yellow light time in a 25 mph zone might be appropriate but a 3 second yellow light time for a 45 mph zone might be too short. Determining whether or not the yellow light time is appropriate depends on the relationship between the speed limit for that particular road and the yellow light duration. They both must be in tune with one another. Ok anyway I’m sorry for the long explaination but I’ll tell you right now that if you where driving at a reasonable speed for that area and you where close to the intersection when it turned yellow then right after that as you started enter the intersection it became red then it probably was a too short yellow light time. If however you where unreasonably far from the intersection’s yellow light and it turned red on you as you went through the intersection then the yellow light time is probably ok because you should have stop.

My advice to you would be to contact the National Motorists Association and ask them for advice on what you should do. Phone: (608) 849-6000 Fax: (608) 849-8697. Also one commen sense thing would be to not plead guilty.

I tried the best I could to offer you advice but I’m sorry if it wasn’t much help. I hope every thing turns out Ok.