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	<title>Comments on: City Recommends More Intersection Collisions</title>
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		<title>By: JIMC5499</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-10411</link>
		<dc:creator>JIMC5499</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the fees that many cities charge for having Emergency Services come to the scene of an accident.  More collisions = More fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the fees that many cities charge for having Emergency Services come to the scene of an accident.  More collisions = More fees.</p>
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		<title>By: alpan</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5702</link>
		<dc:creator>alpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got ticketed at one of these red light cameras for going through a yellow light here in NYC. The next time I passed the camera array, the light turned yellow. What do you think I did? I hit the brakes. An uninsured driver rear-ended me, totaled both our cars and put me in the hospital. These cameras are not there for &quot;public safety&quot;. The politicians would rather dance in your blood while you get injured. What&#039;s wrong with just increasing the yellow light signal and the time both lights are red? Simple - there&#039;s no money in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got ticketed at one of these red light cameras for going through a yellow light here in NYC. The next time I passed the camera array, the light turned yellow. What do you think I did? I hit the brakes. An uninsured driver rear-ended me, totaled both our cars and put me in the hospital. These cameras are not there for &#8220;public safety&#8221;. The politicians would rather dance in your blood while you get injured. What&#8217;s wrong with just increasing the yellow light signal and the time both lights are red? Simple &#8211; there&#8217;s no money in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents. Solution In Stockton, CA? Add More Cameras. &#124; Alex Roy’s Team Polizei 144 HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents. Solution In Stockton, CA? Add More Cameras. &#124; Alex Roy’s Team Polizei 144 HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] red light cameras increase accidents. Stockton, CA&#8217;s own data comes to the same conclusion, yet they want to add more. Even the local newspaper supports more red light cameras despite acknowledging the increase in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] red light cameras increase accidents. Stockton, CA&#8217;s own data comes to the same conclusion, yet they want to add more. Even the local newspaper supports more red light cameras despite acknowledging the increase in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ticket Dodger</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ticket Dodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen really makes the best points here. He profves it with studies, and facts. Cameras flashing brightly all over in peoples faces are a distraction. In my city they installed 8 of these, and the exact same thing has been reported as well. It&#039;s the flashing lights from the camera light that is the problem here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen really makes the best points here. He profves it with studies, and facts. Cameras flashing brightly all over in peoples faces are a distraction. In my city they installed 8 of these, and the exact same thing has been reported as well. It&#8217;s the flashing lights from the camera light that is the problem here.</p>
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		<title>By: CeeDub</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>CeeDub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in China not too long ago I noticed that, rather than following the U.S. practice of spending money to put up cameras to &quot;catch&quot; errant drivers running traffic signals that give 3-4 sec yellow warnings, they are installing digital countdown timers that are coupled with generous yellow warnings to inform drivers of how much time is left before the light is going to change - the countdown timer starts as soon as the light turns green.
It appears the Chinese have learned that a successful economy can be built without  imposing criminal penalties ones own population or engaging in self-serving jingoistic exploits abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in China not too long ago I noticed that, rather than following the U.S. practice of spending money to put up cameras to &#8220;catch&#8221; errant drivers running traffic signals that give 3-4 sec yellow warnings, they are installing digital countdown timers that are coupled with generous yellow warnings to inform drivers of how much time is left before the light is going to change &#8211; the countdown timer starts as soon as the light turns green.<br />
It appears the Chinese have learned that a successful economy can be built without  imposing criminal penalties ones own population or engaging in self-serving jingoistic exploits abroad.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, cameras cause plenty of accidents.
I don&#039;t want to put up with the wanton criminality of the local city councils, and corrupt courts/judges in fighting illegal red light cameras. They violate my rights, which are protected by the 5th amendment to the US Constitution-no if&#039;s, ands, or butts about it.

So, when the light goes yellow, I am on the brakes as hard as it takes to stop at the line, no farther. If this entails braking with 1g of peak deceleration, so be it. Many semi-tractor trailer, and pickup/SUVs, and cars can not even hit 1g deceleration with the tires they have, or even average 0.75g braking.
I have not been rear ended [yet] and even if I am, I would not be at fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, cameras cause plenty of accidents.<br />
I don&#8217;t want to put up with the wanton criminality of the local city councils, and corrupt courts/judges in fighting illegal red light cameras. They violate my rights, which are protected by the 5th amendment to the US Constitution-no if&#8217;s, ands, or butts about it.</p>
<p>So, when the light goes yellow, I am on the brakes as hard as it takes to stop at the line, no farther. If this entails braking with 1g of peak deceleration, so be it. Many semi-tractor trailer, and pickup/SUVs, and cars can not even hit 1g deceleration with the tires they have, or even average 0.75g braking.<br />
I have not been rear ended [yet] and even if I am, I would not be at fault.</p>
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		<title>By: clark</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: MaineLinuxGuy</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>MaineLinuxGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not eliminate the issue altogether and start replacing all four way intersections with rotaries? This speeds things up in intersections a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not eliminate the issue altogether and start replacing all four way intersections with rotaries? This speeds things up in intersections a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: wozerd</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>wozerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The disparity in the mindsets of people all on the same road at the same time is frightening. The rigid adherance to the speed limit by the paranoid, the self appointed traffic nazi bent on controlling traffic flow from the left lane and the delusional driver who, wrapped in self rightiousness, is convinced of their safety by strictly following the rules.
Many of the respondants here can fit into one of these catagories. Of course, there are the &quot;scofflaws&quot; but worse are those that cannot actually drive, those that should use public transportation so they can use cell phones, eat, dream or whatever without having to actually concentrate on such mundane things as other drivers. 
This is as it has been since the advent of the automatic transmission and air conditioning. 
I wonder how many of you would deal with what&#039;s occuring in many European cities: They are removing all traffic control signs and light, leaving, in most cases, only one rule--- courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The disparity in the mindsets of people all on the same road at the same time is frightening. The rigid adherance to the speed limit by the paranoid, the self appointed traffic nazi bent on controlling traffic flow from the left lane and the delusional driver who, wrapped in self rightiousness, is convinced of their safety by strictly following the rules.<br />
Many of the respondants here can fit into one of these catagories. Of course, there are the &#8220;scofflaws&#8221; but worse are those that cannot actually drive, those that should use public transportation so they can use cell phones, eat, dream or whatever without having to actually concentrate on such mundane things as other drivers.<br />
This is as it has been since the advent of the automatic transmission and air conditioning.<br />
I wonder how many of you would deal with what&#8217;s occuring in many European cities: They are removing all traffic control signs and light, leaving, in most cases, only one rule&#8212; courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: bones</title>
		<link>http://blog.motorists.org/city-recommends-more-intersection-collisions/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cameras do not &quot;cause&quot; crashes.

1&gt;driving too fast, 2&gt;following too close or 3&gt;not paying attention cause crashes.

It doesn&#039;t matter how quick or unexpected the driver in front of me stops because he is afraid of a rlc. If I&#039;m not doing one of the 3 things mentioned, or under the influence, I&#039;m not going to rear end someone. 

So maybe these rlc&#039;s are trading one evil for another, ie rear end collisions instead of angle (t-bone) collissions. But for me personally, I&#039;d rather take my chances in a rear end collossion that be struck in the driver/ passenger door by a car speeding to beat the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cameras do not &#8220;cause&#8221; crashes.</p>
<p>1&gt;driving too fast, 2&gt;following too close or 3&gt;not paying attention cause crashes.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how quick or unexpected the driver in front of me stops because he is afraid of a rlc. If I&#8217;m not doing one of the 3 things mentioned, or under the influence, I&#8217;m not going to rear end someone. </p>
<p>So maybe these rlc&#8217;s are trading one evil for another, ie rear end collisions instead of angle (t-bone) collissions. But for me personally, I&#8217;d rather take my chances in a rear end collossion that be struck in the driver/ passenger door by a car speeding to beat the light.</p>
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