Comments on: 9 Things You Need To Know About “Cash For Clunkers” http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/ News For Drivers Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:16:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14314 Randy Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:45:43 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14314 Fleet Admiral oooo. An Audi has passthough seats. Cool. Well the Ford Focus does too. Last winter I went skiing with two other people and we had 3 sets of skis and and boots and helmets and coats and luggage for 10 days all inside a Ford Focus. It is a deluxe model and is at a very expensive 15 grand with taxes included. How about your precious Audi. You know I would hope those things are good cars because I could by many US cars for the price of one of them. I never take them in the shop either since they can be fixed myself if anything needs replacing because I can pick up parts locally at a very good price. I would say that you should move back to Germany because the US is definitely not good enough for you. Fleet Admiral oooo. An Audi has passthough seats. Cool. Well the Ford Focus does too. Last winter I went skiing with two other people and we had 3 sets of skis and and boots and helmets and coats and luggage for 10 days all inside a Ford Focus. It is a deluxe model and is at a very expensive 15 grand with taxes included. How about your precious Audi. You know I would hope those things are good cars because I could by many US cars for the price of one of them. I never take them in the shop either since they can be fixed myself if anything needs replacing because I can pick up parts locally at a very good price.

I would say that you should move back to Germany because the US is definitely not good enough for you.

]]> By: Fleet Admiral http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14309 Fleet Admiral Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:03:18 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14309 Oh,and ain't NO one going to be haulin skis in a frod focus. My A6 has a ski passthrough in the rear seat. No need for a rack on top. And when that passthrough isn't being used, there is a TILTABLE*read whiplash prevention* height adjustable middle headrest for 5 passenger comfort while italian operatic music is blaring because this car is on a mission to conquer. And reading up on the focus, ambient LED lighting? heh, Audi has had it for decades since '98 and improved for the A8 in '04 http://www.thhe.dk/Audi_A8_3,7.htm In the roof for map lighting(which frod is only considering now and hasn't implemented) and door grab handles(which frod is only considering and hasn't implemented). Get with it frod, the competition has you beat by 10 years along with more fuel efficient engines. Why do you think ALL US auto makers are bankrupt? Because they don't know how to build cars. And people like me who have been buying Euro and Japanese cars have known this for decades and that's how long they've been bankrupt. It's been a long time coming. That's why this cash for crap program works in Europe only, because they actually IMPROVE their cars, not that they can by much since all they do is add more electronics to them instead of suspension and safety which they are almost already maxed out on. 10+ yrs ago they had diesels that got 25-50mpg, now they get 60-80mpg AND have implemented emissions controls which are now required on all US diesels. The US comes nowhere near that for mpg since we're so stuck on gas and quick 0-60. I'd be more than happy to trade my twin turbo Audi at 5.8 to 60 for a 8 sec 50mpg diesel A4 or A8. But the US resists import of those cars due to competition because it would bankrupt the auto industry here. Well, back to square one because it happened long ago. I did look up the cargo for the A8 and it states it at 14.6 something, which is inaccurate to say the least since it is just as big as an A6. Or that could be the fact that for what it lacks in trunk space it more than makes up for in rear legroom which you'll not find on even the most expensive caddy or town car. Oh,and ain’t NO one going to be haulin skis in a frod focus. My A6 has a ski passthrough in the rear seat. No need for a rack on top. And when that passthrough isn’t being used, there is a TILTABLE*read whiplash prevention* height adjustable middle headrest for 5 passenger comfort while italian operatic music is blaring because this car is on a mission to conquer.

And reading up on the focus, ambient LED lighting? heh, Audi has had it for decades since ‘98 and improved for the A8 in ‘04

http://www.thhe.dk/Audi_A8_3,7.htm

In the roof for map lighting(which frod is only considering now and hasn’t implemented) and door grab handles(which frod is only considering and hasn’t implemented). Get with it frod, the competition has you beat by 10 years along with more fuel efficient engines. Why do you think ALL US auto makers are bankrupt? Because they don’t know how to build cars. And people like me who have been buying Euro and Japanese cars have known this for decades and that’s how long they’ve been bankrupt. It’s been a long time coming.

That’s why this cash for crap program works in Europe only, because they actually IMPROVE their cars, not that they can by much since all they do is add more electronics to them instead of suspension and safety which they are almost already maxed out on. 10+ yrs ago they had diesels that got 25-50mpg, now they get 60-80mpg AND have implemented emissions controls which are now required on all US diesels. The US comes nowhere near that for mpg since we’re so stuck on gas and quick 0-60. I’d be more than happy to trade my twin turbo Audi at 5.8 to 60 for a 8 sec 50mpg diesel A4 or A8. But the US resists import of those cars due to competition because it would bankrupt the auto industry here. Well, back to square one because it happened long ago.

I did look up the cargo for the A8 and it states it at 14.6 something, which is inaccurate to say the least since it is just as big as an A6. Or that could be the fact that for what it lacks in trunk space it more than makes up for in rear legroom which you’ll not find on even the most expensive caddy or town car.

]]> By: Fleet Admiral http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14308 Fleet Admiral Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:51:08 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14308 Your precious frod focus has 13.8cu trunk space, Audi A4 beats it by 3ft at 16.9. Seats down it has 34. As I said, NO one beats Audi/VW on cargo capacity. And cripe OH MY, the A3, which is even SMALLER has MORE trunk space at 19.5!! That's 3 more than the A4 which was already 3 more than the focus for a total of 6cu ft more. How do those rascally Germans do it!? Your precious frod focus has 13.8cu trunk space, Audi A4 beats it by 3ft at 16.9. Seats down it has 34. As I said, NO one beats Audi/VW on cargo capacity. And cripe OH MY, the A3, which is even SMALLER has MORE trunk space at 19.5!! That’s 3 more than the A4 which was already 3 more than the focus for a total of 6cu ft more.

How do those rascally Germans do it!?

]]> By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14278 Randy Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:46:53 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14278 Deric, why would an auto enthusiast be against this? No, an auto enthusiast woud be for this to be able to upgrade to a better vehicle cheaper. Political enthusiasts are the ones that would be agianst this. You are a political enthusiast. Deric, why would an auto enthusiast be against this? No, an auto enthusiast woud be for this to be able to upgrade to a better vehicle cheaper. Political enthusiasts are the ones that would be agianst this. You are a political enthusiast.

]]> By: deric http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14274 deric Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:58:17 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14274 It is stupid for you guys to be arguing amongst yourself over how this might or might not help you. Go argue over gas milage specs elsewhere, this is about more government meddling and wasting, and keeping us -all of us in debt. IF you really are an auto enthusiast, hand deliver a letter to your representatives to to appose this nonsense, and start getting involved. I cant even believe how quickly the comments got off topic. Everything government touches turns to crap. It is stupid for you guys to be arguing amongst yourself over how this might or might not help you.
Go argue over gas milage specs elsewhere, this is about more government meddling and wasting, and keeping us -all of us in debt.

IF you really are an auto enthusiast, hand deliver a letter to your representatives to to appose this nonsense, and start getting involved.

I cant even believe how quickly the comments got off topic. Everything government touches turns to crap.

]]> By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14253 Randy Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:29:30 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14253 Brian earlier I did a quick search for the mileage that Taurus got each year it was manufactured and did not see the figures you are quoting. They are pretty close to the figures that I gave. Brian earlier I did a quick search for the mileage that Taurus got each year it was manufactured and did not see the figures you are quoting. They are pretty close to the figures that I gave.

]]> By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14252 Randy Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:46:25 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14252 Fleet Admiral I got my information from the Audi web site not Ebay? Does Audi sell new cars on Ebay? You look up the specs. I also do not want to buy an Audi Station Wagon to replace what a US compact car can do for 1/4 the price. From what I have seen Ford has the largest trunks and space out there. Fleet Admiral I got my information from the Audi web site not Ebay? Does Audi sell new cars on Ebay? You look up the specs. I also do not want to buy an Audi Station Wagon to replace what a US compact car can do for 1/4 the price. From what I have seen Ford has the largest trunks and space out there.

]]> By: Fleet Admiral http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14249 Fleet Admiral Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:21:36 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14249 Randy, I don't know where you're getting your info from, but it's erroneous. All you have to do is look at the trunk pics for Audis on EBAY to see they're far more cavernous than ANY freakin car made in the US or even Europe, not to mention split folding rear seats. BMW, Merc are all a joke compared to the VW/Audi line for trunk space. Not to mention the Germans specialize in STATION WAGONS. Something the US seems to have forgotten in favor of "Sport"UVS.. chuckle. Nothing "sport" about them unless you own a Porsche Cayenne, twin turbo. Honsetly this tirade against European autos just won't do.. it won't hold up. Randy, I don’t know where you’re getting your info from, but it’s erroneous. All you have to do is look at the trunk pics for Audis on EBAY to see they’re far more cavernous than ANY freakin car made in the US or even Europe, not to mention split folding rear seats. BMW, Merc are all a joke compared to the VW/Audi line for trunk space.

Not to mention the Germans specialize in STATION WAGONS. Something the US seems to have forgotten in favor of “Sport”UVS.. chuckle. Nothing “sport” about them unless you own a Porsche Cayenne, twin turbo.

Honsetly this tirade against European autos just won’t do.. it won’t hold up.

]]> By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14247 Randy Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:47:15 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14247 Fleet Admiral I looked at the specs on your Audis. I am sorry but the largest Audi has about the same luggage space as the smallest Ford Focus. A vehicle is no good to me unless you can haul luggage and skis for 3 or 4 people. We have different priorites. Yours is to be able to drive 170 mph and mine is to get around comfortably with the number of people and luggage that I want with very good gas milage. Fleet Admiral I looked at the specs on your Audis. I am sorry but the largest Audi has about the same luggage space as the smallest Ford Focus. A vehicle is no good to me unless you can haul luggage and skis for 3 or 4 people. We have different priorites. Yours is to be able to drive 170 mph and mine is to get around comfortably with the number of people and luggage that I want with very good gas milage.

]]> By: Randy http://blog.motorists.org/cash-for-clunkers-9-things-to-know/comment-page-1/#comment-14246 Randy Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:39:43 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/?p=394#comment-14246 Brian what the heck year was that? For 1997 which was the year I had the figures were City:17 MPG - 20 MPG Highway: 25 MPG - 28 MPG. The V8 got 25 mpg highway with the V6 rated at 28 mpg. I had the V6 and like I said I averaged 27 to 28 overall so those were conservative figures. Brian what the heck year was that? For 1997 which was the year I had the figures were
City:17 MPG – 20 MPG
Highway: 25 MPG – 28 MPG.

The V8 got 25 mpg highway with the V6 rated at 28 mpg. I had the V6 and like I said I averaged 27 to 28 overall so those were conservative figures.

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