Comments on: Blue Collar Cars — Wall Street Prices http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/ News For Drivers Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:16:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jerry http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-3276 Jerry Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:37:54 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-3276 Ya gotta know what you doing to run one of these cars. I've been twistin' wrenches on muscle cars since about '66-'67...still got one...todays pump gas is crap for them...the Reid Vapor Pressure is too high and the octane is too low...just ask anyone who has experienced manifold flash in the winter months during cold starts up to operating temp. These cars are not toys. The stupid high prices people pay for them are paid by the same stupid people who don't deserve to own them....anyway, 2 or 3 G's of cash will go alot farther than you think...I see it all the time !! hg Ya gotta know what you doing to run one of these cars. I’ve been twistin’ wrenches on muscle cars since about ‘66-’67…still got one…todays pump gas is crap for them…the Reid Vapor Pressure is too high and the octane is too low…just ask anyone who has experienced manifold flash in the winter months during cold starts up to operating temp. These cars are not toys. The stupid high prices people pay for them are paid by the same stupid people who don’t deserve to own them….anyway, 2 or 3 G’s of cash will go alot farther than you think…I see it all the time !! hg

]]> By: Jack Templin http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-3199 Jack Templin Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:43:44 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-3199 I totally agree with Mr. Peters. I've had some interesting cars in the past but will only share my experience with one. Bought a 1970 Shelby GT-500 new for less than $5,000. Drove it until 1976. Sold it for $600 less than I paid for it because of 46,000 miles and rust under the door and laughed all the way to the bank. Dumb me! Only 270 of these made that year. I deserve a well placed kick, you know where. I totally agree with Mr. Peters. I’ve had some interesting cars in the past but will only share my experience with one. Bought a 1970 Shelby GT-500 new for less than $5,000. Drove it until 1976. Sold it for $600 less than I paid for it because of 46,000 miles and rust under the door and laughed all the way to the bank. Dumb me! Only 270 of these made that year. I deserve a well placed kick, you know where.

]]> By: Joe http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-3064 Joe Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:02:50 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-3064 I'd still have my first car, a '65 Impala SS if it hadn't gotten stolen about 10 years ago. Time was when it wasn't hardly worth stealing but as several of you have stated, with time it's value became worth the theft. This fact crept up on me or I would have been more protective of it. I can certainly relate to; {Antique cars let your mind wander back into the days of your youth, when life was a lot simpler, when a man’s word was his bond, and everything was generally in black or white. There was no political correctness, the was honor in business and government, and dear God the cars we could buy were awesome.} Hold that thought for it relates to traffic control issues as well. Here's a snippet of what I posted on a sister blog. {James and I are old enough to remember when a lot of these laws and regulations would have been laughable .....well not anymore. Problem is the younger generations have never experienced the freedoms that James and I have, so the younger generations believe this is the way it's always been thereby becoming becoming part of the pacification process of the populace. It may help to explain why many of us who are becoming part of the older generation are more outspoken about traffic control issues then the younger crowd. I know a 80 year old that lives near Stringtown OK that is one of the strongest advocates against speed traps, that I know. Why? We remember the times when cops were not revenuers. Cops were respected because they earned that respect. But that's a subject for another blogg. } I’d still have my first car, a ‘65 Impala SS if it hadn’t gotten stolen about 10 years ago. Time was when it wasn’t hardly worth stealing but as several of you have stated, with time it’s value became worth the theft. This fact crept up on me or I would have been more protective of it.

I can certainly relate to;
{Antique cars let your mind wander back into the days of your youth, when life was a lot simpler, when a man’s word was his bond, and everything was generally in black or white. There was no political correctness, the was honor in business and government, and dear God the cars we could buy were awesome.}

Hold that thought for it relates to traffic control issues as well. Here’s a snippet of what I posted on a sister blog.

{James and I are old enough to remember when a lot of these laws and regulations would have been laughable …..well not anymore. Problem is the younger generations have never experienced the freedoms that James and I have, so the younger generations believe this is the way it’s always been thereby becoming becoming part of the pacification process of the populace.
It may help to explain why many of us who are becoming part of the older generation are more outspoken about traffic control issues then the younger crowd. I know a 80 year old that lives near Stringtown OK that is one of the strongest advocates against speed traps, that I know. Why? We remember the times when cops were not revenuers. Cops were respected because they earned that respect. But that’s a subject for another blogg. }

]]> By: Nate Salter http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-3059 Nate Salter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:15:31 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-3059 The man hit the nail on the head. When I started in this hobby forty years ago, I built a car out of scrap yard parts and new parts when I could afford them because I didn't have cash or credit cards. With lots of help we stuffed a 392 hemi into an old 55 Dodge and went out and scared the behoosis out of ourselves because the brakes didn't stop the original motor let along a Hemi that well. As I grew older and my income increased, I would by a brand spanking new Road Runner each year they were built, and it was around 500 bucks difference car for car. I would keep making my payments and saved a few bucks of my lunch money every week, so I could waltz into the dealer and order the next one in August to have it for new car introduction. Those new Road Runners squeaked and leaked and I would have them back to the dealer a dozen times to get all the pieces put on properly, but when you hit the loud pedal whooooooooeeeeee!!!!!! Today I have four ancient Mopars in my collection, all purchased or built for far more dollars than they cost new. Some are original and some are radical customs, but each and every one gives me a different driving experience and feel. Yes as I am now getting older there will come a time when my treasurer will have to go, and yes I will most likely make some profit on them at that point, but that is not the reason I bought them and worked on them. Antique cars let your mind wander back into the days of your youth, when life was a lot simpler, when a man's word was his bond, and everything was generally in black or white. There was no political correctness, the was honour in business and government, and dear God the cars we could buy were awesome. Today's kids have no idea what it was like to be able to go into a dealership and make a down payment on a 426 Hemi or a 429 Cobra Jet or a Chevelle SS454. And then as long as your could make your payment, pay for your insurance and filler her up with 41 cent per gallon premium gas you were on top of the world. The man hit the nail on the head. When I started in this hobby forty years ago, I built a car out of scrap yard parts and new parts when I could afford them because I didn’t have cash or credit cards. With lots of help we stuffed a 392 hemi into an old 55 Dodge and went out and scared the behoosis out of ourselves because the brakes didn’t stop the original motor let along a Hemi that well.

As I grew older and my income increased, I would by a brand spanking new Road Runner each year they were built, and it was around 500 bucks difference car for car. I would keep making my payments and saved a few bucks of my lunch money every week, so I could waltz into the dealer and order the next one in August to have it for new car introduction.

Those new Road Runners squeaked and leaked and I would have them back to the dealer a dozen times to get all the pieces put on properly, but when you hit the loud pedal whooooooooeeeeee!!!!!!

Today I have four ancient Mopars in my collection, all purchased or built for far more dollars than they cost new. Some are original and some are radical customs, but each and every one gives me a different driving experience and feel. Yes as I am now getting older there will come a time when my treasurer will have to go, and yes I will most likely make some profit on them at that point, but that is not the reason I bought them and worked on them.
Antique cars let your mind wander back into the days of your youth, when life was a lot simpler, when a man’s word was his bond, and everything was generally in black or white. There was no political correctness, the was honour in business and government, and dear God the cars we could buy were awesome.
Today’s kids have no idea what it was like to be able to go into a dealership and make a down payment on a 426 Hemi or a 429 Cobra Jet or a Chevelle SS454. And then as long as your could make your payment, pay for your insurance and filler her up with 41 cent per gallon premium gas you were on top of the world.

]]> By: Tim Francis http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-3001 Tim Francis Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:05:08 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-3001 I own and built a 1966 Mustang and a 1971 Corvette and I drive them. I just bought a 1958 Chevy PU out of a field and will build it back bolt by bolt for the love of it, not the money. I own and built a 1966 Mustang and a 1971 Corvette and I drive them. I just bought a 1958 Chevy PU out of a field and will build it back bolt by bolt for the love of it, not the money.

]]> By: Scott http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2979 Scott Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:58:09 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-2979 Well, Eric makes some valid points, but overlooks some things as well. It's the same evolution with most nostalgia/collectibles, whether it be baseball cards or fishing lures. You have to remember that when Eric was 16, those cars he was looking at were how old, 13-15 years? Based on that, today's teenager would be looking at a car made in what, 1993? Technically, that experience Eric talks about as being out of reach maybe isn't. Are some of the future classics now sitting, collecting dust and rust, unappreciated by all, just like the muscle cars of our youth? What cars will remind them of their youth? They are probably some steals out there if history holds true. Anyway, as a new boomer buyer of a muscle car I just found a '72 Cutlass Supreme (coupe) for under $10,000. I'm not a gearhead, but appreciate the glory days of the American car maker, and just want to take a weekend drive with the wife to reminisce. As for the greed factor, it's there and will always be a negative in some ways. But there is always a silver lining. Also, if you are patient and look long enough you can still find a deal (even if its only a "driver"). Well, Eric makes some valid points, but overlooks some things as well. It’s the same evolution with most nostalgia/collectibles, whether it be baseball cards or fishing lures. You have to remember that when Eric was 16, those cars he was looking at were how old, 13-15 years? Based on that, today’s teenager would be looking at a car made in what, 1993? Technically, that experience Eric talks about as being out of reach maybe isn’t. Are some of the future classics now sitting, collecting dust and rust, unappreciated by all, just like the muscle cars of our youth? What cars will remind them of their youth? They are probably some steals out there if history holds true.
Anyway, as a new boomer buyer of a muscle car I just found a ‘72 Cutlass Supreme (coupe) for under $10,000. I’m not a gearhead, but appreciate the glory days of the American car maker, and just want to take a weekend drive with the wife to reminisce.
As for the greed factor, it’s there and will always be a negative in some ways. But there is always a silver lining. Also, if you are patient and look long enough you can still find a deal (even if its only a “driver”).

]]> By: Scotched http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2939 Scotched Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:50:55 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-2939 There will be a museum. There probably already is. I will go see them, and remember the wind in my hair, and the hot guy driving the 'rod..... There will be a museum. There probably already is. I will go see them, and remember the wind in my hair, and the hot guy driving the ‘rod…..

]]> By: Jeff http://blog.motorists.org/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-2937 Jeff Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:38:31 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/helpful-information/blue-collar-cars-wall-street-prices/#comment-2937 I don't know who the author is, but he sounds like a crybaby socialist. I don’t know who the author is, but he sounds like a crybaby socialist.

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