Comments on: 10 Reasons To Oppose Red-Light Cameras http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/ News For Drivers Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:12:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Hugh Kirkpatrick http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14838 Hugh Kirkpatrick Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:12:25 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14838 p.s. I am amazed at the number of drivers who do not know or understand the law regarding traffic lights and their relation to the intersection boundaries. I am perpetually amazed (and frustrated) at the number of drivers who, after the thru lanes light has gone green and the left turn arrow has estinguished, will sit in the left lane behind the white line and not proceed. Legally, they have the right while the main light is green, to proceed into the intersection, and make their left turn, even after the main light has gone red! The yellow caution light means, "Do Not Enter the intersection". Once you are IN the intersection, you have the right to proceed (with reasonable caution) even after the light has turned red. If the front bumper of your vehicle has crossed the white intersection boundary line after the light is red, you are still legal. If that light is red any time before that, you are not. p.s. I am amazed at the number of drivers who do not know or understand the law regarding traffic lights and their relation to the intersection boundaries. I am perpetually amazed (and frustrated) at the number of drivers who, after the thru lanes light has gone green and the left turn arrow has estinguished, will sit in the left lane behind the white line and not proceed. Legally, they have the right while the main light is green, to proceed into the intersection, and make their left turn, even after the main light has gone red! The yellow caution light means, “Do Not Enter the intersection”. Once you are IN the intersection, you have the right to proceed (with reasonable caution) even after the light has turned red. If the front bumper of your vehicle has crossed the white intersection boundary line after the light is red, you are still legal. If that light is red any time before that, you are not.

]]> By: Hugh Kirkpatrick http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14837 Hugh Kirkpatrick Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:03:48 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14837 I pretty much agree with all the stated reasons. But I still want to see some justice meted out to those inconsiderate idiots who blatantly run the left turn arrow after it goes red, daring the oncoming traffic - which has the right-of-way to hit them! In South Florida where we have possibly the worst drivers on earth, you will see as many as a half dozen cars tightly bunched, run the left turn light after it has gone red, impeding the oncoming traffic. My solution? A 1968 Lincoln Continental with about 800 lbs of lead in the front bumper...and when that light goes green, I go, and to hell with whoever dares to cut across my lane in front of me!! I pretty much agree with all the stated reasons. But I still want to see some justice meted out to those inconsiderate idiots who blatantly run the left turn arrow after it goes red, daring the oncoming traffic – which has the right-of-way to hit them! In South Florida where we have possibly the worst drivers on earth, you will see as many as a half dozen cars tightly bunched, run the left turn light after it has gone red, impeding the oncoming traffic. My solution? A 1968 Lincoln Continental with about 800 lbs of lead in the front bumper…and when that light goes green, I go, and to hell with whoever dares to cut across my lane in front of me!!

]]> By: Mike http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14678 Mike Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:22:26 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14678 I see, so it really is about the revenue, after all. $75 for the municipality, plus a couple points so the insurance companies can raise their premiums. Thank you for making such a good point. I see, so it really is about the revenue, after all. $75 for the municipality, plus a couple points so the insurance companies can raise their premiums. Thank you for making such a good point.

]]> By: ccAudi http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14677 ccAudi Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:35:20 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14677 More cameras please. You may still run red lights, we simply charge $75 and a point or two for the privilege. More cameras please. You may still run red lights, we simply charge $75 and a point or two for the privilege.

]]> By: Paolo http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14671 Paolo Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:13:10 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14671 In Italy some municipalities even did scams to get more tikets... they used semaphores with very short time for yellow light... but that's the typical Italian crap. Anyway if properly used, and if the cameras are well visible (so to discourage infractions) it can be a good solution in some places. In Italy some municipalities even did scams to get more tikets… they used semaphores with very short time for yellow light… but that’s the typical Italian crap. Anyway if properly used, and if the cameras are well visible (so to discourage infractions) it can be a good solution in some places.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14653 Mike Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:19:06 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14653 Well, you certainly made your point (whatever it was). Well, you certainly made your point (whatever it was).

]]> By: boofhead http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14652 boofhead Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:38:30 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14652 in sydney australia cameras Have reduced stupid collisons , Have been used in courts re accidents stolen cars robberies etc only A--H---- have something to fear . THEY SAVE LIVES use them . Act responsible points 1..8 are false, right type of equipment will nullify point 9 ,on 10 who gives a S...t about fools who put lives at risk YES I DO GIVE A DAMM SO SHOULD YOU BILL in sydney australia cameras Have reduced stupid collisons , Have been used in courts re accidents stolen cars robberies etc only A–H—- have something to fear . THEY SAVE LIVES use them . Act responsible points 1..8 are false, right type of equipment will nullify point 9 ,on 10 who gives a S…t about fools who put lives at risk YES I DO GIVE A DAMM SO SHOULD YOU BILL

]]> By: C http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14376 C Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:00:22 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14376 Do you know anyone who has gotten the cameras taken down or removed because of the flashes at night waking them up. Do you know anyone who has gotten the cameras taken down or removed because of the flashes at night waking them up.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-14100 Mike Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:08:05 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-14100 Red light enforcement cameras in Ottawa, Ont., Canada, are catching unexpected prey: cops, firefighters and paramedics. The resulting C$180 tickets stand since province law requires emergency vehicles to stop at red lights before passing through, and slowing down to a crawl isn't good enough. The city won't back down, and has required the agencies involved to pay C$11,000 (US$10,000) so far. (Ottawa Citizen) ...Well sure: those cameras are all about revenue no matter where they are. Red light enforcement cameras in Ottawa, Ont., Canada, are catching unexpected prey: cops, firefighters and paramedics. The resulting C$180 tickets stand since province law requires emergency vehicles to stop at red lights before passing through, and slowing down to a crawl isn’t good enough. The city won’t back down, and has required the agencies involved to pay C$11,000 (US$10,000) so far. (Ottawa Citizen)

…Well sure: those cameras are all about revenue no matter where they are.

]]> By: Phil Mckrackin http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/comment-page-2/#comment-12717 Phil Mckrackin Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:06:21 +0000 http://www.motorists.org/blog/red-light-cameras/10-reasons-to-oppose-red-light-cameras/#comment-12717 #6 is grounds for dismissal in my state. An officer can not write a traffic ticket for offensesof the law that he did not witness if that offense is less than a misdemeanor. Which driving through a red light is less than a misdemeanor. similarly when a crash occurs a ticket that is written for a person driving through a red light can easily gain a dismissal with a simple motion by the defendant or his/her attorney. However, in such cases I feel redlight cameras would be helpful in litigations resulting from said crashes. #6 is grounds for dismissal in my state. An officer can not write a traffic ticket for offensesof the law that he did not witness if that offense is less than a misdemeanor. Which driving through a red light is less than a misdemeanor. similarly when a crash occurs a ticket that is written for a person driving through a red light can easily gain a dismissal with a simple motion by the defendant or his/her attorney. However, in such cases I feel redlight cameras would be helpful in litigations resulting from said crashes.

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